why should we be asking 'how the case is going' - happening almost in secret, no media, KBF folk just waiting in the wings - this is pathetic i'm afraid - if we cannot unite and be in their faces we have no chance - i am really disappointed in this site as it lacks direction and strategy. I've spent weeks contacting people, building networks going out and enjoying the company of others as late as last night - BUT nothing is happening to change the narrative - i think KBF needs to wake up as well as all those complicit in the tyranny - this is war and one we are not winning - do not expect any change come the JR court hearing - bear in mind it is only an appeal to get a hearing - this can go on for ever as the regime just 'kick it into the long grass' - it's just not good enough!
Yes, we are being attacked by the authorities, yes, people are doing a lot of talking. but we are not at war, not yet, a war requires that both sides are fighting and we are fighting, only in courts, by letters etc. Don't get me wrong, I fully accept what you say but until this opinion is the majority opinion, we will lose any sort of conflict. Any sort of conflict by a small group will do nothing to impress the majority and may in fact alienate the idea so that when it is required, it will have no support. The best way at the moment is non compliance, uncooperation etc etc. Much more than this requires the full support of the population otherwise it will fail. People here and on other sites are trying their damned hardest to get more of the 'undecided' people on our side. It is a difficult job as we are all subjected to the non stop propaganda in the MSM. If I read you correctly you yearn to take direct action. Now is not the time, for the above reasons. That sort of action is a 'one time' thing that once started HAS to win. Until a majority of the population supports us, we have to wait
@Pete i hear you but til more made super uncomfy, it's going to be grumbling from masses. Least Simon doing something. It's all the 🦋 Effect. We need more rich folk doing stuff. More who have resources to do courtside. Also need joined up 'poor' to do stuff. Once middle classes are hit, then we may have revolution. Idk, but my sense is not enough being hit at minute so will take more time - it's coming but not now.
it has a running commentary from Save our Rights, who were at court watching and giving the updates on twitter. The comments on the threads are true British humour!
this is a reply to Steve - this website is not very good
I am not suggesting direct action, as a 70 year old i would find that difficult to achieve, but i am suggesting a clearer and more obvious strategy. We are in a psychological war and have been since the beginning. What else is the behavioural insights team about - they are leading the torture of the people - where do you think all the chaos and confusion is coming from - it's deliberate to undermine the public - how many people here even know what behavioural science is about? The longer this continues the more likely the people will be complicit in the tyranny. I have seen nobody take the BIT apart - i've tried on twitter till i got banned - who else is challenging this?
I agree non-compliance has to happen - have done so from the start - and am widening my networks to find loads of like minded people BUT we are not changing the narrative. Simon's case has failed again and it will be interesting to read his court summary - but this is happening amongst the 'little people' like us - nobody else gives a ****! So we have to address this urgently
Hi Thanks for replying. Its funny really, I agree with what you say about it being a psychological war. The trouble is though that they have the upper hand, they control the MSM and as you know, it is EVERYWHERE. I don't think that we can win this war, they have the upper hand here.
Well done for sticking to your guns. I am and have also refused to comply from day 1. I have had the police at my door and they left quicker than they arrived let me tell you!
My own views are as follows:
During the inter war years in Germany, the population were much the same as we are now, ie being oppressed and with no clear way out of the situation. I think that there are many parallels with this period in history. It all came together, albeit short term, for the German people when this guy came along and said 'follow me' and he convinced them of a way out. It worked for them, almost full employment etc. I think that we need this her and now, we need a person who is going to stand up to the 'authorities' and to show the people a way forward (although without a world war!). That is what everyone is missing, a common target (not the right word but I hope you understand my meaning) where their efforts can be realised.
Unfortunately, as in Germany during the 1930's I think that there will be armed rebellion of sorts because these MP's, with there luxurious lifestyles, expence accounts etc will not give that up until they are forced. Maybe Simon will emerge to be that focus for people to target. I don't know.
We just might have a dead loss of a Judge, at the very least in the payoff of this government. They didn't produce the evidence which makes me think they were confident. Might be wrong. According to Simon Hoar a few days ago Government had already issued a warning to Inns of Court to lawyers not to accept cases against the them. So anything can happen.
You have to remember who pays the judges wages. Still I suppose he will go back to his grouse shoot and have a jolly little chuckle over all this.
I don't know why but the Gov seems absolutely determined to bring this country to civil war. The outcome of this case was determined before the case ever started.
@stevehabberley This country does not have enough police or army to deal with a civil uprising unless they plan on machine gunning everyone to death .
Army is less than a 100.000 and they don’t always support the government. A few up high have already said this . Police are desperately trying to get numbers up .
There is plenty of us to take these mutha fuckers down . It’s having the balls to do it .
we could walk in to number ten tomorrow if enough people got together .
@stevehabberley & Xena Maybe its time for change! this is not getting us anywhere, money keeps changing hands but we get nothing in return for it. Some serious thought needed.
@Pete has to be mate, way of online management to cover legal stuff. But apart from me not allowed to swear haha! Had more freedom on here than anywhere else. Do you have anyone round you physically who on board with your concerns and supporting you? This is going to sound super condescending but I'm finding all this darkness a challenge also but you're doing great and just do what you can without jeopardise your health and if you need a supportive pal am your gal :)
why should we be asking 'how the case is going' - happening almost in secret, no media, KBF folk just waiting in the wings - this is pathetic i'm afraid - if we cannot unite and be in their faces we have no chance - i am really disappointed in this site as it lacks direction and strategy. I've spent weeks contacting people, building networks going out and enjoying the company of others as late as last night - BUT nothing is happening to change the narrative - i think KBF needs to wake up as well as all those complicit in the tyranny - this is war and one we are not winning - do not expect any change come the JR court hearing - bear in mind it is only an appeal to get a hearing - this can go on for ever as the regime just 'kick it into the long grass' - it's just not good enough!
Yes, we are being attacked by the authorities, yes, people are doing a lot of talking. but we are not at war, not yet, a war requires that both sides are fighting and we are fighting, only in courts, by letters etc. Don't get me wrong, I fully accept what you say but until this opinion is the majority opinion, we will lose any sort of conflict. Any sort of conflict by a small group will do nothing to impress the majority and may in fact alienate the idea so that when it is required, it will have no support. The best way at the moment is non compliance, uncooperation etc etc. Much more than this requires the full support of the population otherwise it will fail. People here and on other sites are trying their damned hardest to get more of the 'undecided' people on our side. It is a difficult job as we are all subjected to the non stop propaganda in the MSM. If I read you correctly you yearn to take direct action. Now is not the time, for the above reasons. That sort of action is a 'one time' thing that once started HAS to win. Until a majority of the population supports us, we have to wait
@Pete i hear you but til more made super uncomfy, it's going to be grumbling from masses. Least Simon doing something. It's all the 🦋 Effect. We need more rich folk doing stuff. More who have resources to do courtside. Also need joined up 'poor' to do stuff. Once middle classes are hit, then we may have revolution. Idk, but my sense is not enough being hit at minute so will take more time - it's coming but not now.
@stevehabberley Def.
See my new thread on Simons case with link
it has a running commentary from Save our Rights, who were at court watching and giving the updates on twitter. The comments on the threads are true British humour!
this is a reply to Steve - this website is not very good
I am not suggesting direct action, as a 70 year old i would find that difficult to achieve, but i am suggesting a clearer and more obvious strategy. We are in a psychological war and have been since the beginning. What else is the behavioural insights team about - they are leading the torture of the people - where do you think all the chaos and confusion is coming from - it's deliberate to undermine the public - how many people here even know what behavioural science is about? The longer this continues the more likely the people will be complicit in the tyranny. I have seen nobody take the BIT apart - i've tried on twitter till i got banned - who else is challenging this?
I agree non-compliance has to happen - have done so from the start - and am widening my networks to find loads of like minded people BUT we are not changing the narrative. Simon's case has failed again and it will be interesting to read his court summary - but this is happening amongst the 'little people' like us - nobody else gives a ****! So we have to address this urgently
Hi Thanks for replying. Its funny really, I agree with what you say about it being a psychological war. The trouble is though that they have the upper hand, they control the MSM and as you know, it is EVERYWHERE. I don't think that we can win this war, they have the upper hand here.
Well done for sticking to your guns. I am and have also refused to comply from day 1. I have had the police at my door and they left quicker than they arrived let me tell you!
My own views are as follows:
During the inter war years in Germany, the population were much the same as we are now, ie being oppressed and with no clear way out of the situation. I think that there are many parallels with this period in history. It all came together, albeit short term, for the German people when this guy came along and said 'follow me' and he convinced them of a way out. It worked for them, almost full employment etc. I think that we need this her and now, we need a person who is going to stand up to the 'authorities' and to show the people a way forward (although without a world war!). That is what everyone is missing, a common target (not the right word but I hope you understand my meaning) where their efforts can be realised.
Unfortunately, as in Germany during the 1930's I think that there will be armed rebellion of sorts because these MP's, with there luxurious lifestyles, expence accounts etc will not give that up until they are forced. Maybe Simon will emerge to be that focus for people to target. I don't know.
@stevehabberley I seem to remember that a relatively small group of people visited the radio /tv bldg and took over the air for a while. ( east euro?)
Pete.......I totally agree with you regarding BIT. At a slightly lesser level, this has all actually been going on for decades.
Not great I don't think. Waiting for judge's verdict. Check Simon Dolan's Twitter
We just might have a dead loss of a Judge, at the very least in the payoff of this government. They didn't produce the evidence which makes me think they were confident. Might be wrong. According to Simon Hoar a few days ago Government had already issued a warning to Inns of Court to lawyers not to accept cases against the them. So anything can happen.
You have to remember who pays the judges wages. Still I suppose he will go back to his grouse shoot and have a jolly little chuckle over all this.
I don't know why but the Gov seems absolutely determined to bring this country to civil war. The outcome of this case was determined before the case ever started.
@stevehabberley This country does not have enough police or army to deal with a civil uprising unless they plan on machine gunning everyone to death .
Army is less than a 100.000 and they don’t always support the government. A few up high have already said this . Police are desperately trying to get numbers up .
There is plenty of us to take these mutha fuckers down . It’s having the balls to do it .
we could walk in to number ten tomorrow if enough people got together .
@stevehabberley & Xena Maybe its time for change! this is not getting us anywhere, money keeps changing hands but we get nothing in return for it. Some serious thought needed.
i also notice this site is moderated too!
it is, not sure if that's bad, it depends on how it is managed
@Pete has to be mate, way of online management to cover legal stuff. But apart from me not allowed to swear haha! Had more freedom on here than anywhere else. Do you have anyone round you physically who on board with your concerns and supporting you? This is going to sound super condescending but I'm finding all this darkness a challenge also but you're doing great and just do what you can without jeopardise your health and if you need a supportive pal am your gal :)