I bet you would not be able to guess what I have been doing for the last half hour?
Give in?
Let me explain:
Knock on door: I open door.
Two Police men standing with all the kit on, trying to look intimidating.
me: hello, what do you want?
them: May we come in?
me: No you can say what you want by standing there.
Them : We need to question you about threats that you have made to Vikki Howells MP
me Which are? -
them, You sent her a letter that was threatening.
Note: Please read my post on here, this is the letter that is being referred to.
me: have you got the letter with you if so please show me exactly where I threatened her
them no we haven't
Me: then you have no evidence do you, goodbye.
them I dont think you quite understand, you have made threats to an MP for which I can arrest and detain you.
me: erm....On what charge? - them what?
me again on what charge will I be arrested for, its a simple question I would have thought?
them: Never mind that
me: so are you saying that you dont know why you are going to arrest me?
them, I didnt say that
me: no, you didn't say anything after telling me I was going to be arrested. If you continue to carry out your threat I will charge you with false arrest and false imprisonment because you have refused to tell me why I am being arrested.
them: there is no need for all that, you have made threats to an mp....
Me: threats that you cannot substantiate!
them: I will be the judge of that
me What - I thought that a judge in a court of law would be the judge of that, not you, who made you judge and jury?
them drop the attitude or you WILL be arrested,
me What for, we never got past that one, shall we try that again?
Them: Listen I know the law I have been doing this job for 20 years ( he must have started when he was about 4 years old then), This is going nowhere
me: I know my rights too, so either arrest me or be on your way.
Note they walk away, towards their car muttering something inaudible.
I guess I must be hitting a nerve with my letters, I am obviously upsetting somebody, oh well, I am VERY careful not to make threats of any kind, in fact I double check for anything that could be construed as a threat, so I know that I was ok with the letter.
I think that this was an attempt to intimidate and bully me into being quiet - WRONG FELLA GUYS. it would take more than that. I guess they could be coming around a few more times yet. If they do I will file for harassment
Here is the letter:
Dear Ms Howells
Thank you for not answering any of my concerns. Firstly, there are enough Covid19 testing stations in and around local areas, should those choosing to be tested opt for that choice. To then be further targeting households in an attempt to coerce, bully or pursued householders on their doorsteps., with the added perceived intimidation of soldiers standing on or nearby the door step is nothing short of intimidation tactics in an attempt to ensure everyone is tested despite this not being a mandatory requirement
I assure you Ms Howells that the reaction to seeing a member of HM armed forces, dressed in full combat gear, standing on your doorstep or very close to it is most intimidating and will achieve the response you require of that person. I feel that I am able to quote this with ALL authority after spending five years performing EXACTLY this action during my service for HM Armed forces, whilst in Northern Ireland. Please provide me with your own experiences of such actions and the results of such operations.
You have NOT stated if the military option is going to be considered for Wales and in particularly RCT. I ask again. Is this planned or being considered for the RCT area?
As to the second part of your letter dealing with blatantly flouting local restriction guidelines, I am a little confused here. My confusion lies in your use of the word Guidelines because Guidelines are simply that, guidelines and are certainly not mandatory or law and so therefore not enforceable. Is this a mistake on your part I wonder?
Please clear this confusing statement by explaining how and when a guideline becomes enforceable.
As to your claim that I am endangering fellow citizens lives, I do not HAVE Covid so please explain how I am endangering anyone?
If I choose to endanger myself due to a Virus that is yet UNPROVEN, then that is my choice but let me remind you that Coronavirus is one of 250+ variants of the common cold, it has never been isolated and so therefore has NEVER been declared or classified as a Virus, dangerous or otherwise. It has Failed all four of the Koch Postulates, used for the past 130 years to classify a virus and as of March 2020 Covid19 is no longer considered as a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.
The testing of this virus is KNOWN to be unreliable in fact the designers of the PCR test have specifically stated that it SHOULD NOT be used as a diagnostics tool as it is know to give up to 80% false positive results. The UK Government have admitted to this problem (report available on request), Meaning that the Government has NO reliable data as to how many, if any people have been affected by this issue at all.
Where therefore is the threat?
Your claims simply do not hold water Ms Howells
I now draw your attention to Article 2.1 of the Anti terrorism act where it explicitly states that....' The following acts are regarded as terrorism:'
'...Violence or threats which aim to bring about fear among people or expose their lives, freedoms and security to danger and their money and properties to damage regardless of its motives and purposes which takes place in the execution of a terrorist act, individually or collectively organized' Without being able to provide proof of the isolation and classification of the virus, the UK government are CLEARLY in breach of this part of the act by spreading threats and fear amongst the people of a threat that does not exist or that they are unable to prove or justify.
Please prove me wrong by supplying me with the proof that the Virus known as Coronavirus, Covid19 or SARSCOV2 has been subjected to and has passed the required tests that qualify this as being a virus. The UK government HAS been asked to provide such information in a court of law and despite these requests, has consistently failed to provide such evidence. If the virus has never been proved then it cannot be legislated against, which questions the validity of the whole Coronavirus2020 Act and suggests that this act is actually null and void.
I look forward to your response
Stephen Habberley
Steve .. You need to email Simon with the copy of the letter and ask for his comments. it’s best to have a 2nd opinion on this as now you have had a visit. I think if MPs have agreed to this agenda they’ve been told they will be looked after.
Also Toby Young.
I didn't think of that, do you think it would be of interest to them then?
I do Steve to protect yourself, also. I think they would want to know.
Ok I will do that. Excuse my ignorance here but who is Toby Young?
@stevehabberley Toby Young is a journalist at the Spectator who is charge of the new free speech society. ? Also Laurence Fox the actor. Well done Steve.
@stevehabberley _ Toby Young is the editor of Lockdown Sceptics. You can e-mail him if you look at the website. He is also part of the Free Speech Union. Details can also be found on the website, as well as a solicitor's contact that can give you advice.
Francis Hoar, Ivor Cummings, Simon all share each other tweets Toby Young (@toadmeister) / Twitter
Ok, I will send too him too, Thanks
Rita ---can I correct this plse. Ivor's surname is Cummins ( best not to relate him to the dangerous monster Dominic Cummings!!!)
Thank you - yes sometimes it’s weird typing on here
This is why I love this country.
Great Britain is probably the most liberal country in the world and we must not fail.
The level of engagement of concerned citizens and our average knowledge of our rights will allow Great Britain to be free.
The funny thing is that she didn't answer my letter, probably would have meant that she had to commit herself instead of sitting on the fence (this is a strong fence!!). Instead she called the police. Effing coward.
Steve ... I also highly recommend you get this 'story' in front of Peter Hitchens and Andrew Neil.........both have Twitter accounts
Really, do you think it is that important then?
@stevehabberley Yes. VERY! That was outright attempted intimidation in my book. It was also a complete waste of police time......a service that WE pay for. This needs as much publicity as possible.
@Gery W Fair comment then, I didn't think of it that way, I will start contacting people. I have done Simon and Toby Young already.
Tbh we all may all need a stragegy if this becomes the normal !!
Never open the door to the cops...watch Crimebodge on Youtube.
Well done for standing your ground. But how can they send people to question you without any evidence? If they just had a copy of the letter they could see that there is nothing in there that is threatening. I've linked to this thread in my Twitter feed, people need to know what is going on. Why are the police doing this? What's in it for them? As an aside, I actually did threaten my MP in my most recent letter... I threatened to actively campaign against her in any future elections if she voted to extend the Coronavirus Act 2020. I believe that is not a crime yet. Unfortunately, I need to make good on my threat in the run-up future elections as she wasn't swayed by my points. Let's hope that a serious alternative political party has emerged by then; one that isn't beholden to globalism.
As an aside, could being questioned like this when you demonstrably haven't done anything wrong be considered to be police harassment?
Wow, yes, please do use any of it to spread the word, that goes for anyone else reading this post too. I am going to be writing most of the night.
I think that she didn't like it because I would not be told what to do, especially with the crossing of the RCT border, she seemed most put out by that. Apparently I am almost a muderer.
Not sure WHY, well I am, just to try to keep me in line I think. NO CHANCE! I will not break the 'normal' laws but I am NOT following any of the Covid crap.
Not sure if its harassment yet, I image that If they come back again and spout off their crap, I may be able to get them on that.
Steve - You'll never put a good man down!
@TwinkleToes They aint good men and I WILL put them down
Well done Steve and well handled. We have a big problem with some of the police, but there still are a few Good Ones. But a bigger problem with the level of security guards esspecially the semi foreign ones that will be used everywhere on us. This guy does some great videos and very brave exposing this. Well worth watching as a lot to learn!
Mark - Loved the videos of a man in command of the facts and a lot of guts, exposing
the so called law and an insight to the use of the mask giving cover and confidence to over inflated egos. Security is very busy covering up this Govts dirty work prepared to defend it to the last and look who is ready to oblige. Hope they are all well informed on how to save their bacon when the big one comes. Somehow I don't think so because when the chips are down the cowards are never anywhere to be found, long gone.
@TwinkleToes Yes - can see these security guards being let into the police once got a good CV lol.. And the ones arriving on the boats I guess are being trained as we speak for these minimum wage Serco Jobs!
@Mark Yes! it's becoming all too obvious. Great stuff.
Police are supposed to be there to protect the people. Makes you wonder where the order came from to send them round? Just following orders I suppose. Seem to have heard that somewhere before!
I think I am obviously getting right up somebodies nose, well and truly. It aint going to stop now. If I haven't broken the law, I can't be nicked can I. Just have to make sure my letters do not break the rules.
Stefan - I don't know who is the worst this Government as a whole or Mzzzzzzzz Cressida Dick well chosen for the job in hand, she could start a world war all on her own.
@TwinkleToes EEEvnin, have you heard of Dr Corbett or Mark steel?
Hi Steve,how are you. Obv your used to military and that kind of thing but it must have been alarming to be threatened and intimidated in this way at you own home. I can see you handled it impeccably, the worry is if the police and army doingthis to citizens who don't have your training. It's a disgrace. How dare they and who's this MP? I've no words with how much I loathe these mad eyed money grubbing eejits. They handin us all on a silver platter while telling us on the daily 'keep sacrificing more '. Corruption and darkness has gone to such a wide spectrum I'm not sure how we will see light and freedom again without divine intervention. Evil is only word for this. I haven't read all the members replies but agree wit those who say to protect yourself, make a paper trail and send this off to all those known to be publicly protesting for our country and people. Peter hitchens has been a continued voice, and all rest recommended. This needs to go public - stick it up on twitter too add to others threads who are battling this. Add to gov threads so folk see what our representatives are doing to the citizens should they question the dark narrative. You deal with it admirably, but there are many (myself included) who would be scared by army or police doin this. Project fear is a role this lot happy to take on and this further enforces that this 'pandemic' is a dark deciet only able to happen as they use fear to silence. Big hugs to you, much respect to you for how you managed them . 👍
Thanks but the intimidation did not work in the slightest. I didn't think much of it until I put it here and everyone said the same as you, it has to go public. Didnt really think about it but yeah ok, go for it.
They will only pick on you if you come across nervous or scared. If they cannot break through your confidence, they WILL end up taking the submissive role and then you take control of the situation. This is how they are trained to take control of a situation but what they are not trained to do is what happens when you use it on them. They fall apart every time. If you find a suitable place to put it (thats sounds bad but you know what I mean) please feel free to use it. I just want to beat these B*****ds in any way I can.
@stevehabberley am glad you fine. But we clearly have had totally diff experiences of police. And army is step up from police so their presence on street in future is even more of a concern. Ppl think im scared cos I'm a wimp or weak. Nah, it's cos I've experienced realities of being authoritarianism many haven't had, so they have luxury of saying 'we not scared'. How can you be if you've been safe all your life and no authority has harmed you. I am a pragmatist, am a fighter, but it's also folly of others to believe it won't happen to them if they go by law. I believe more uprisings will happen but not for a while yet cos too many ppl are still comfy, their personal boundaries haven't been crossed to such a degree that they stand gobsmacked and poverty stricken while holding a black eye given by those they said they weren't scared of. will take more criminal assualts from our govs before the public say enough and turn. The time isn't now. It's coming but too many are arrogant in their thinking they aren't scared of authority and will fight. You fight but when they come and you're alone, bravery only means getting sharp end of harm and not crying when it happens. Which is why I say to you that what you did was commendable and bravo. Just look after yourself and get that paper trail out and contact jpurnos on our side with view to publish. It's a long battle prob longer than any of us realised was going on, but get it now. Stick to conscience, it's really all we have now.
@AutonomousAmy I agree with you, as you know, I was in NI and on the frontline. Although I was in effect part of the problem, I still saw what was happening and my problem was that I could think about what I saw and din't like it at all. If you have not witnessed it, you have no idea what it is like and as you say, that is the problem. When I tell people the real NI they simply do not belive it. When I tell them it is coming here, they just simply say " no it won.t happen here - the people would not stand for it" I get mad and tell them that THEY are the people and they ARE standing for it if not encouraging it by not fighting back. They just plain ignore what is too uncomfortable to hear.
The post, letter and everything is going to Mark Steel and Dr Corbett (I don't know them but are very good. They have asked if they can send it to their Barrister too. WOW!. Not sure what from there, they also asked about me, I told them of my Military past and the PTSD etc and they said fantastic, they seemed very excited so maybe something will happen. Cross our fingers, toes,legs and everything else. Oh yeah, I don;t think you are a weak person. You are not compliant, that takes guts
Steve hsve u had replies off anyone else?
Well not replies but a few more people - even Piers Corbyn contacted me and asked if he could quote it. I said yes of course
Did u hear back from Simon?
Well, the threat is that your are spelling out their crimes. Rights are only there for criminals.
Just wonder the quality of police these days, though very suitable for criminals. You did the right thing and never give up. Polititians use the police to intimidate people who can not understand the laws and lacks of common sense in order to proceed with their agenda.
Shocking....we are in a police state.
I have decided that as well as talking to all these guys from various newspapers ets, I am going to launch a complaint against the Vikki Howells. My reason? I am of the opinion that she purposely concocted all the police action simply because she felt 'threatened' by my letter because having received a correspondence from one of her constituents, the contents of the letter contradicted her own views and she obviously didn't want this line of enquiry going any further. The proof that this IS a fraudelent action comes from the fact that, had I, or most other rational people have received a threatening letter. The very first thing I would do is telephone the police, then and ther and not wait a number of days before deciding that I am frightened and would like the author of the letter arrested. By her actions in involving the Police, she has 'frightened' me for no good reason and therefore she should be dismissed from her post for unprofessional behaviour and attempting to pervert the course of justice. I wonder if the Police visit her home?
@stevehabberley Morning! I am sure you are right and I back your intention to deal with her. I suppose your letter was discussed within the walls of corruption and there would be plenty of so called advise given from those that want the riff raff silenced because it got too close for comfort, Tough I say, bring it on. Years ago they burnt Witches at the stake, no such luck here.
P.S Steve - riff raff was not meant personally.
@TwinkleToes ohhh.... I am now mortally wounded!! I'm joking - the thought never entered my mind. Mind you that's not unusual, there is not a lot that ever enters my mind.
It must be a man thing. I often ask my other half what he thinks about, behave!!
Returning to the subject of the times we are existing in, how is it going, any news?
Well, as you know that Police thing has somewhat gone viral, I have had two reporters from Spectator ( dont really know that) wanting do do a story - Kate Shemani has asked if she can use it on her website and can she give it to their groups barrister. Not sure what for. Piers Corbyn hs also asked for details - along with Mark Steel and Dr Corbett, it has somewhat gone out of control, all over two over enthusiastic plod who fancied themselves a bit too much..
I messaged Simon about the poster campaign and he wants to wait after Oct 15 (might be 18th) cant remember, until after the court hearing I think but he hasn't ruled it out and , most important of all - I bought a bus!
@stevehabberley Good news all round, I hoped it would. Ironically it may just be the weakest link we are looking for if its exposure comes good. I'd say she got it WRONG and she should resign, not very hopeful. Why the bus? is it a campaign bus you have planned, or are you picking up for the next demonstration?😀
@TwinkleToes Could easily be, na not really, its a 30 seat coach anf I am going to convert it to a motorhome.
I, not sure about advertising, I will have a nose around
or is it for advertising?
Rita - why not! good idea.
Maybe we need to buy a fleet of them!!