I have read that if we refuse the test/vaccine then it now only takes one doctior to determine that we will be sectioned under the mental health act because we are not acting sensibly. There is so much wrong with this. 1. What is their definition of sensibly. If we are to be sectioned then we have a great precedent to get Hancock and Johnson sectioned for not acting sensibly.
One point that I can promise though, if I get some doctor threaten to incarcerate me because I will not take a tes, the next thing he will see is the ceiling because I will lay him out, I have nothing to lose, I'm being locked up anyway I also cannot be prosecuted because I have just been classified as mentally ill. So bring it on doctor, just try me.
Do you have any evidence of this?
It was from the NHS site but give me a minute and I will try to get it
Thanks. I work in psychiatric care and haven't heard of this.
OMG, I bet you are in the thick of it right now!
OK its not as bad as I thought, On reading the whole lot, it gives them the right to section you and force the treatment (Test) onto you and new regs state that it only needs to be one doctor. But if this happens, DO NOT lose your rag in any way. Keep calm etc because if you raise your voice in protest, he can determine that you are not in a fit state of mind and section you there and then.
I have already sent a 'living will' into my health authority, telling them that in the event of my being incapacitated, I am refusing the test. and /or vaccine under any circumstances. It is a legal document that they HAVE to take notice of. I can post it here if you want to copy it.
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/nhs-services-and-treatments/do-I-have-the-right-to-refuse-treatment/
I work in psychiatric intensive care & psychiatric treatment can be forced on someone if it is considered to be in their best interest & they lack capacity, but waived in some cases when a person has given an advanced directive . It does not apply to covid tests. At least not on my ward (at present) . We have had a couple of patients that have displayed symptoms who have refused tests & have been persuaded to be nursed in isolation for the duration of their symptoms. We have nursed them as best we can, appropriately following PPE protocols. Both patients displayed cold/flu like symptoms
@Jo Parkin Costa Not surprised at the symptoms but Article 6 of the 2005 UNESCO (bioethics Human rights) statement and the UK human rights specifically states that permission is required before any medical practice is carried out on the person and that consent can be withdraw at any time throughout the procedure. (not the actual words, just my abbreviation) . Every medical procedure is covered under this statement, covid included. The ONLY difference is when the person is not in a fit state to make a decision.
I am not sure what it says about your own situation, ie sectioned etc. I remember seeing reference to it but have never needed to refer to it.
It further states that the patient has to be given full information on the procedures, expected results etc (again my words) before being asked for a decision but Covid Does come under the Human Rights Statement every bit as any other procedure.
The government Could argue that it is in the national interest but they have somewhat shot themselves in the foot on that one by allowing certain groups (grouse shooters, police etc) not to be tested or vaccinated. If the hospital ignored the advanced directive that specifically mentions the Virus, they are obliged to follow that request, whether it be a life decision or otherwise. They would be guilty of breaching that persons Human rights
@Jo Parkin Costa I am sorry Jo but the ward or type of treatment does not allow the breach of human rights. I can check out what it says exactly and get back to you, as I said, I can't remember what it says but even a psychiatric ward has guidelines to follow when it comes to human rights. There is NO part of medical procedures that are allowed to operate outside of these parameters and COVID is no different. This is international law, not hospital policy.
There a person on here who challenged this with courts/ authorities. I think name was lethin? Or something. Haven't had an update on their progress but sounds like they made good changes.
Do you know anything about the Lethin thing, I would like to research the case. Is it on here then?
@stevehabberley I've just tried to search for the poster but failed. Idk maybe someone or the person themselves will see this. As I cant mind the person name I am lost. They had a purple emblem and name was lethin or yethin or something like that- said they managed to change part of coronavirus act and 'you can too'.....sorry not much help