London protests 19th December 2020 ..
So once again we are told the police are trying to prevent the spread of the virus ,
Yet they closely surround and arrest people walking . Tell me how 7/8 officers manhandling a man or women is stopping the virus . Surely by your own admission
People getting physical and we are talking about 1 citizen being man handled by a lot of police physically.
If any of those policemen have the virus the they are going to spread it ,either to there 7 / 8 other fellow officers or infect the citizen they are arresting ,
So their behaviour is increasing the chances of spreading the virus ,by your own admissions of how this virus spreads.
Good sense would suggest you let the people protest, they are only walking .
Have you not realised yet people will not stop protesting.
So the best thing you can do is to leave them/ us alone and that way the police who are the only ones getting physical will have less chance of the virus spreading
The polices actions make no sense . You are certainly only making things worse .
Do the police not get the virus ,Social distancing doesn’t apply to them.
Didn’t you say Khan that the protesters are putting the lives of police at risk .
Well I can solve that in one simple sentence.
LEAVE THE PROTESTERS ALONE .
It’s gone beyond sense, it’s now promoting fear, Handcock getting advice from ‘nervtag’ ..... scary, scary they think we were born yesterday.
Have you seen nervtag and sage report 30 /11 ?
a lot of the deaths are 80 year olds with a number of medical conditions is it Covid or death due to health complexity.
@Tee thomas It seems to cover every symptoms covid 19. I think I should call emergency I have a runny nose, I am not making it for Christmas.
They have so many covid deaths under 50's so we all are going to dying
xena artray - Good on you. 'LEAVE THE PROTESTERS ALONE'. I couldn't agree more! At our Manchester protest march we were more socially distanced than those queuing outside Primark!
It is very sad how the number of protestors has dropped to such low amount. I am not surprised, that's why I decided not to go any more. They can not just invite people to protest and them leave them alone when the police arrive and attack or arrest some of them. I find this total cowardless but unfortunately it is the reality, we are not a team player. One thing is been a police officer and another is been a thug/sicario/terrorist. I will never respect those and I will allways defend any one around me who become a victim of these thughs called police in London. The problem is there are not enough people like me. Protestors felt betrayed and decided not to attend anymore. Who can blame them ?.Can you imagine soldiers running off and hiden themselves when the enemies start shooting ? No, I don't think so. The thing is no one has wake up yet. Until people don't start to see the obvious, that this is a silent war against us, and decide to fight back defending ourselves each other from the criminals, nothing is going to change. And believe me, we are running out of time. Too much compliance during protests are sending us to further dictatotship. We are colaborating to it as much as the zombies. What are people waiting for, to have their children removed by these pedos communists, because that is coming next.
We need you at the protest , don’t let them scare you . Just be smart .
i take one one of my bikes with me and carry a messenger bag . Just make things awkward . I have never had any shit with the police . I don’t know why .
At kings x when they were arresting people for standing around , i told the fuzz ,I’m here
for the protest blah blah blah . They didn’t say anything ended up in a chat about the BS virus
, same yesterday two policemen came up to me and a lady I was chatting with and It ended up with the police nearly shaking my hand when they left . I standing in a path under scaffolding, a shit load of police on a charge came towards me , I put my bike in front of me and some them said cheers mate as they passed by .
I have no idea what’s going on . I think they are targeting certain individuals.
what do others think . Or is it they just don’t want to deal with my bike if they arrest me .
i dont carry any ID a just cash ......
@xena artray I never had any problem with the police, but I can not stand other people getting attacked and arrested for doing nothing wrong, while no one is intending to help. All they do at most is taking a video with their mobile. I find it very selfish and cowardless. The police are just playing with people, evil to some and sociable to others, in order to confuse them because they don't want to be hated though they still proceeding with their criminalities. It don't buy me. They are laughing at every one. They wan, less and less people go to the protest because we let them down, we did not defend any of them from the police. Our proterst is over because we colaborated with the thug police except with our people.
i agree we should be pulling people out , but there are not enough of us .
Im fed up with “ shame on you “
but yesterday ,there was police everywhere , just loads of them . I was a bit surprised how many vans were around Parliament square when I arrived . How are we supposed to help if they are so many of them , we need a clear advantage and better tactics . I don’t see cowards
at all . I’ve seen brave people coming out fighting for our freedom , the cowards are the ones who supports us but don’t do anything , bury their head in the sand . Your not a coward for not getting stuck in. I see brave people who have never protested before, getting angry , not everyone is equipped to deal physically with violence. So everyone out there protesting putting themselves in that position have my respect . The police have a weapons advantage, we have just our selves .
We Just don’t have the numbers or tactics . If this was Tottenham were I live and it kicked off, it would be a whole new ball game . But its not . So we do the best we can .
How many small women were picked off yesterday. -Quite a few in-fact probably the majority of those arrested . Like you said they want less and less people to go , so it’s worked ,,,,,,
your not there are you . No disrespect meant but you see my point . If we keep going the numbers grow and people feel safer. so not protesting gives them the win .
I didn’t see anyone collaborate with the police , the police i spoke to and have spoken to in the past I tell them quite clearly that they have been out of line and no one trusts them .
if we collaborated with them , we would have all gone home when they asked us .
people would not have got arrested would they . That’s not collaborative is it .
The numbers is the answer and better tactics . Don’t let people straggle get bikes and pram and scooters to form a walking barrier get the smaller less intimidating people in the middle so they can’t be picked off . I’ve said this so many times . If they want to arrest me fine , I’d rather that then someone who is physically smaller and softer ( no,offence meant to anyone ) .
Im going to every protest i can get to , fuk em . If we give up protesting then what .
we are in the MSM. We are sending a message . I’m sending a message . What ,we just send mails to our MP,s who are not listening, I’ve now sent hundreds . We are getting nowhere with legal cases . So what do we have left . Protests in other parts of the UK have been much better attended . Im not giving up ,I’m still sending mails everyday to Khan Lammy etc etc
I don’t like the violence I am seeing by the police but if I give up then I feel like that man or woman who got arrested have got arrested for nothing , so I’m going to continue ,protesting , ,mails, no mask, waking up people every chance I can make ,Sainsbury’s etc etc any FUKING where . My protest is not over Maria, nor is it for the hundred s of thousands world wide who are not giving up and I do it for those to afraid to send a mail or protest in the street etc etc . I respect your views and understand the frustration, and we all have to do what’s right for us so I make no judgment on your choice , I wish you would protest but your on here posting etc and that is making a impact as well , so you have my respect .
cheers Xena
Indirectly, like it or not that's what the majority has been doing, collaborating. Reason why many people stopped protesting. I am not going to a protest to see martirs. Many have been, because they were left on their own. Those thugs police in London are laughing at all of us and they speak to some people to get a feedback and celebrate their success. Until people don't start to realise that the police in London are just empty heads used as tool by the government against the people and that them as the doctors are the two weapons used by the government on this war against us we are not getting any where. Every time some protester gets attacked and/or arrested by the thughs, and we just watch or run away we are collaborating to this war against us. Today, hardly anyone go to protest in London. Having respect to the thug police or to doctors is like having respect to the gun that it is about to shot you. They are just thick heads war tools against us. Do you think if they were intelligent they will be scared of loosing their jobs ? No, because it will be too easy for them to get a job in another country, after all leaving this country or any European country is the best we could do if we don't want to fight. The thing is that not only they are selfish they are far too stupid. Easy tools for the government and we need to wake up.
@Maria Hannah so going to a protest is collaborating, getting arrested is collaborating.
I think you will find that people have tried to intervene at the arrests , some cases people have been let go . Search you tube and you will see this . Some times we have broken through the police cordons. ,Hows that for collaborating.
it seems to me what your saying is do fuk all and give up . why do you even post ? if protesting is pointless , writing to your MP etc etc is pointless then what is the point posting on here with like minded thinking people, I thought the idea of posting is to find ways to make a impact , let other people know that they are not alone , see if we can do something to make things better ......not come on here and say it’s all pointless. . some people are sleep and some people are awake and some protest and some are to scared and maybe some just don’t know enough about the groups trying to do something . Who‘s exactly respecting the thug police ? have you actually been to a protest ? because every protest I’ve been to every body is giving the police a shit load of deserved hate . We are calling them out every single time and sometimes it has worked , not all the time but a few occasions the police have let people go . like I stated before , thousands of dr’s epidemiologists etc have come out ,look how many have signed the Barrington declaration ,thousands ,many more have signed and made videos etc etc Germany has their own parliamentary enquiry with experts in all fields coming out , world Dr’s alliance etc etc quite a few groups with thousands upon thousands of drs etc coming out . Your wrong .
exactly how many Dr s do you think it will take ?
The main issue is the narrative the masses are being fed , nobody is listening to our narrative in the vast majority of the MSM . The main social media platforms are shutting down our narrative and pulling down videos . This is the biggest problem.
But The Daily mail have posted sone good stuff , talk radio are pretty much on board ,
LBC have done a few things that support our narrative, FOX a news in the states has supported our narrative, also sky news Australia,they have been awesome . its getting out there and we are part of that.
I have a tattoo on my arm “ fuk it all no regrets “. I’m not going to look back at this and be happy with my self if I just sat on the sofa and do nothing , if it all goes to shit and I get arrested etc etc stopped me traveling in the future because I have a record or caused me a lot of issues in my life etc etc then “ fuk it all no regrets “ i have to live with myself ......
@xena artray There is only one way to fight back this war. If five thugs go against one person, twenty five of us go against the five thugs, and pull them out from the victim. That's fighting back, I have not respect for thughs. At the moment, they are laughing at us because they got what they wanted, dropping the number of protesters in a massive way, either through lack of protection or betrail.
Do you know all the different anti lockdown groups that are out there .
plenty of NHS drs nurses have signed those petitions. Many have been suspended ,many have had to remove their comments from social media or lose their jobs . I’ve seen way more than 2/3 ...that’s ridiculous. I’ve been following this since January. Plenty have come out and then been Shut down . So you won’t find their posts.
Do you think a nurse or Dr in London etc all own houses . You seem to have no sense of the reality of people’s situations , do you know how much it costs to just live in London for instance. You have this unrealistic view that they all own a house and earn a shit load of money .They don‘t ,this is the real world not movie world .
Would you speak out if it meant you and your children could be homeless or go hungry ? Do you know the debt that young Drs etc are in ,how much it costs to become a Dr etc ? no you don‘t
This is exactly the reason a lot of NHS staff are not speaking up because they are in debt and if they lose their job they will be in financial trouble . So they have been put into a survival position , you lose your job now ,where are you going to find work ? lockdown, millions on furlough .....Reality
Do you really think those Dr”s ,nurses fixing broken bones ,stitching up wounds ,delivering babies are compliant in mass genocide . That’s BS
There are some ( not all) that become a Dr’s etc etc to help people.
My son when he was a baby had a tumour the size of a football in his stomach (cancer) he went through two years of awful treatment. He‘s now perfectly healthy 6ft tall 14 year old doing athletics and playing the drums. if it wasn’t for the DR’s and nurses of the NHS he would be dead . They were fantastic , Gave us so much support, that’s what the NHS should be about . Its not all corruption etc .
Let get this straight , its the lunatics running the world who have made this shit show , not a nurse working 12 hours shifts in Hackney hospital. Living in a shared flat trying to get by . it’s easy to bitch and moan if your well being or your kids is not under threat .
So like I said we need a way so Drs and Nurses etc don‘t have to remove social media posts , can speak out without fear, then many more would . Not everyone is awake , we know this . So we do our best to wake the sheeple up .
There has been good doctors in the past and thankfully your son got one as you explained. But this does not change the fact that doctors are today responsible of everything is goin own. If they did all talked and not just so few, we won't be on this mess now, neither they will loose their jobs. This fraud of today is based on a fake medical facts that only doctors (I did not mention nurses) can dismantle. If their debts are based on student loan, every one knows that payment is only required when employed and not when unemployed.
On the other, the majority of doctors are not young but 40 plus and they do not have student loans (no that a debt justify assiting genocide anyway). Neither all doctors live in London and neither they are on low wages, some earns more than the official wages of the PM. They all have properties and not a modest one. In other words, their life style is more important to them than peoples lifes even when involves assisting to genocide.
Neither having children justify assisting to genocide. This is insane in which ever ways you look it at.
vast majority of Drs are under 50 years old the highest percentage are under 40 years old . So your quite wrong about that . Around 90.000 Drs are between 30 and 39 .
In 2019, almost 301 thousand doctors were registered in the United Kingdom (UK). The age group with the highest number of doctors is among 30 to 39 with over 90 thousand, followed by 80.3 thousand registered doctors aged 40 to 49 years. There are almost 9.6 thousand doctors registered aged over 70 in the UK.
So many Drs have been suspended and nurses as well for speaking out ,it’s the same in the states . So what happens , other Dr,s and nurses become afraid to say anything because the same will happen to them . They are being blackmailed . speak and you lose your income . being homeless is no fun .
Not everyone can risk losing their income, They don’t all own houses and live in the fake movie world you think they do , that’s a ridiculous sweeping statement that is nonsense . Some they have mortgages etc .
debt . I can tell you that plenty of Dr,s rent. That’s our society works ,Gets you into debt . Have some facts
paramedic in London is £1,881, with a 27% rental allowance equalling £508 a month. For nurses, the average net salary is £2,128pcm, leaving a rental allowance of £575, while a doctor’s net monthly salary is predictably the highest at £3,798, with a 27% allowance of £1,025.
However, with the average monthly rent surrounding London hospitals hitting £1,727, the capital’s NHS workers have no choice but to house-share if they want to live in close proximity to their place of work.
Paramedics would have to share a house between four (3.4) if they want to live in close proximity to the average hospital. Nurses would need to live as a group of three to afford a home near a hospital. Even doctors aren’t exempt from needing to share, though just two (1.7) would be required to comfortably share a property.
Dr’s sharing a flat not owning a house ...... Not living in some huge house in the country etc etc . Real world .
obviously you don’t have kids ( I could be wrong but I doubt it )
you wouldn’t risk making your kids homeless , and all that goes with that .
like I said let’s give them a way to come out and speak up .
No all doctors and nurses live in London. The UK is a bit bigger than that. Most of doctors and nurses own their own homes. However, finance should never be an excuse to assist genocide. They can find a different type of work, they do not have to become homeless, one that do not involves assisting genocide. And not, I do not have children, as I knew what was coming. But if I did have any, the last thing I would do is creating a distopian world to them. I would rather swap job and talk the truth to the whole country.
And by the way, it is not only selfish but totally naive. They are colaborating to the economic destruction and they really think they are going to be able to hold on to their jobs when the economy collapse.
I never said all DRS and nurses live in London
most nurses do not own home = Nurses can afford to buy a home in just 3% of towns across Great Britain, down from 12% from five years ago, new research from British bank Halifax shows.
The average public sector worker has seen a widening gap between wages and house prices with only 8% of towns offering affordable property, down from 24% in 2014.
Nurses are priced out of the largest number of towns, followed by firefighters, who can only afford property in 5% of areas, and then teachers (9%), paramedics (15%) and police (18%).
A home costs around 18 times a key worker’s average wage in some areas, including Rickmansworth, Westminster and Richmond Upon Thames, according to the findings.
The decrease in affordability is due to house prices outpacing earnings growth for public sector workers, said Andrew Mason, head“Over the years I realised that, increasingly, junior doctors would not be able to afford to live in the area surrounding those two great hospitals.
“It has now reached the stage where a new specialist consultant can no longer afford to live in the area, which is a ludicrous and damaging situation.”
Dr‘s are in a similar position = He later stressed that senior doctors would face even worse problems trying to buy a home in the area, unless they were already wealthy.
Check you Facts ,,,,,,,,it’s does you know favours .I appreciate your fight but if it does not hold up to truth then your doing the exact same thing as the people we are fighting against.
If you want to wake up the sleeping people then keep it factual. Truth is our path to getting out of this situation and getting justice for those that have suffered , not made up BS that you think is facts .
3.where are you going to find a job . You do realise that in London for instance the last two week 150.000 jobs have been lost , that’s in around two weeks and do you think it’s any better in smaller towns and city’s which have a much smaller economy.
4 . Some people do have children, maybe those children raised by smart parents may grow up and change things for the better . My children are awake . My sons friends are awake .
so maybe they will do better than us ,who knows . 5. I doubt that will be a economic collapse that would put every Dr and nurse out of a job . What is happening and I thought you would know this , is that the NHS is rapidly moving towards privatisation. That means share holders and profits .
it’s been moving that way for some time . The same as the railways etc etc .
These people are about profit as well as power ........
thanks Xena ....
Privitisation yep , when did all the new nhs foundations happen medway trust etc? Was it around 2012? Something I read a short while ago told me that's what that was all about, and of course the farming out of maintenance and domesilliary contracts, and how many companies names do you see on ambulances, its all moving towards privitisation it makes you wonder what that big red bus during the election was all about you remember the one ex amount of millions saved from brexit could go to the NHS that's if they weren't planning to sell the NHS off already, all lies, found an interesting website as well
checktheevedence.com
Jobs are dissappearing thanks to the majority of health professionals, specially doctors, who are not speaking out. They are the one who are causing the problem. The Government has zero power if doctors speak out, doctors are the tool (main one, not the only one) the Government is using. They created this problem to the country by assisting genocide. I certainly am not going to sympathise with criminals, like I don't sympathise with any other criminals or should we get murders out of prison ?, the motive of most of the murders committed is always money. In accordance to your view, we don't have to do too much, just leave it to the next generation, let the children to sort our problems in the future and in the mean time support those doctors who are injecting poison to innocent people in order to feed their children. This is totally insane. I don't support criminals. Never mind thinking that their children are going to do better. They will be buyring their head on a distopian world created by their parents and poisoning any one they have to in order to make a living as that's all they learnt through their parents. Specially whith the privatisation of the nhs, meaning less staff required and even less whith the country depopulation ahead made it possible by their own parents. Money will never justify murder, even less whe they are the one who created the jobs problem we have now. In accordance to your view, Boris must be a great block as he is doing all this for the sake of his own children, being the only difference his higher aims, he gets more money than other criminals. So what's the point of protesting about anything if actions are the same? All of these start to sound like Germany in 1930's . They all claimed later on at Nuremberg Court that they did it because it was their job to do it.
@matt m Spot on. it’s always money first. These MF‘s run down the NHS ,the pensioners were dying of starvation or hypothermia, now it’s all about saving the NHS and dont kill your granny ,,,and they got all those people to claplike seals every week for the NHS that they have decimated,,,,, emotions over reality . Drs and nurses will be over worked and underpaid for god knows how long while they deal with aback log of over 150.000. ....what a total shit show .
I was standing outside my local hospital waiting for a bus last week, a friend was walking out of the hospital she came over to say hello, she works with energy she is what they call an energist she said that when she walked into the hospital a substantial building, she said all she could feel was the feeling of frustration from everywhere and many of the hospital staff.
I spoke to a few nurses as well , they agree with us .
wait Until the backlog starts , they will be worked off their feet . Will they get a pay rise , will they fuk. They will be shoved aside . hospitals have been overwhelmed before covid , they have not been overwhelmed during the last year at all , nowhere near it . The privatisation will carry on , and the NHS will be squeezed like every other service in this country.
mental health etc all these services receive money , what are they doing with , out scourcing,
look at the 16 billion pounds of fuckery that went to Boris and his mates with covid contracts ,,,,,where were Labour , why didn’t they call that shit out. That is huge corruption and they did fuk all . where’s the real peoples party , wheres the real people’s bank ,,,,,,,
fuckery time and time again .......wake up people wake the fuk up
Zena, Maria, What the hell is going on between you two, this is getting too personal, beg to differ and walk away is too late to say, we are all stressed and worried about the future less cat fights would be appreciated thank you.