Hi Folks. Yesterday I posted in Help and Support (Independent Sources and Links thread) in response to calls for sharing information and resources. MG55 and others had written about how much there is out there and this made me wonder how the links could be shared effectively.
Just a suggestion, why don't we ask Simon, to set up a 'library' section, which can be added to. Lot of work but I think it might be worth it. The way I see it is we can have categories of links such as Alternative News sources eg UK Forum and Off Guardian etc. Links to UK truth seekers - Vernon Coleman, Sonia Polton, Anna Brees, David Icke (agree your comments). Richie Allen, Lord Jon Sumption etc etc, US activists - James Corbett, Ralph Buttar, Amazing Polly. Sections on Face Masks, Vaccines, 5G including scientific findings. Other academic and scientific findings eg harms of lockdown (good one just published on mental health). Scientific reports. Comedians against lockdown - Alistair Williams, Carl Vernon, and many others. Sections on exposing WHO and 'charitable' foundations. Others?
So here's another idea. There are loads of people in different organisations doing the same thing and it would be great if everyone joined KBF to show solidarity. And in particular we need high profile people, like many of the activists mentioned. I watched Sonia last night and she said how much we (KBF) had achieved but didn't include herself in that and I'm thinking it would be good if we could get people to join us, not just recommend us.
I was thinking of doing some research and finding contacts of these high profile people and asking them to join Keep Britain Free with an I AM profile eg I AM Peter Hictchins and write for for the Mail on Sunday and totally oppose lockdown. We could maybe approach people like Ricky Gervais and Robbie Williams (well Anna Brees could maybe contact him again).
My idea of a name for the library would be something like 'Not the MSM News' and it would have to be apolitical and contain items for open debate. We must embrace everyone who is fighting for freedom. I have personally given up on left and right politics as the issue is now the fight against extremes and lack of freedom, communism or facism or whatever you want to call it. If Nigel Farrage or Jeremy Corbyn are anti lockdown and want to join the fight then that's fine by me.
These are just ideas and I'm not wanting to say how it would be done. However, the sharing of good resources and information needs to be organised in order to reach the maximum number of people. And also getting influential people on board might help?
Simon, what do you think?
Ideas everybody 🤔 ? Anyone with skills that can help?
Upward and Onwards.
Livvy
conspiracy theorist = CT = critical thinker ?
or conspiracy theorist = CT = Chemical Toilet
conspiracy theorist = CT = Carbon Tetrachloride
conspiracy theorist = CT = Christ on Toast
conspiracy theorist = CT = Christmas Tinsel
conspiracy theorist = CT = Capital Tapestry
conspiracy theorist = CT = Corn Treacle
conspiracy theorist = CT = Cake Timber
conspiracy theorist = CT = Cycling Tadpole
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'Search for evidence' ......the absence of scientific soundness/data/evidence is quite astonishing
People who dismiss others as "conspiracy theorists" are Coincidence Theorists. Or 77th Brigade.
If you start to ask why instead of just react, as i'm prone to do, you are taken down a route that is so fantastic, as Icke would say, that it looks like 'conspiracy' and science fiction but there are conspiracies so what is the approach? why is covid the single most important health concern? why was the economy crashed to 'defeat' it? why were people allowed to die in the name of 'saving the nhs'? why is an unelected american billionaire seemingly leading the global approach to covid? why was BLM immune to the covid lockdown restrictions? why have the media uniformly not explored the most basic of questions in relation to the lockdown? why have the msm shutdown everything the suggests that 5g is not about faster download? I could go on and maybe most people do not care why but i think we need to an approach to the why for this whole scamdemic?
I've said it before but that the education system in the west has done a blinder over the last 50-60 years in training us to not trust our instinct and delegate our common sense and curiosity to approved 'experts' who are such because they propogate the official line. There really isn't any logical reason why people should be so incensed by people thinking differently and not towing the statecorp line.
BRILLIANTLY PUT Kemi ! I TOTALLY AGREE. QUESTION EVERYTHING! By asking questions there is the possibility of getting some people to switch back on their ability to actually THINK. Naturally we are born as inquisitive beings - we have to find a way to re-stimulate that innate instinct... and quickly!
5G? That's just a low power, high data rate, wireless telecommunications network, please do not link that to Covid-19 or the scamdemic, it will make us a laughing stock in the eyes the public.
Inviting prominent possibly divisive political people could be a problem as we want to keep this apolitical, it could impact on popularity.
OK, I agree with that. I put it in there as some people have suggested articles are banned by MSM and it should be debated. However, the most important thing at the moment is to gain popularity and get a lot of people thinking differently. There is always going to be the problem of KBF being considered a site of conspiracy theorists and that's a battle we need to tackle. We need to encourage the change of name from 'conspiracy theorist' to 'alternative thinkers' or something like that. The categories would be up for discussion but I think one with Memes (like those you published) would be good. All suggestions welcome.
Carl Sagan, I think , said 'There's being open minded and there's being so open minded your brain falls out' so there are conspiracy theories and there are conspiracy theories so illogical and 'out there' that the proponent must be a few cards short of a deck.
We could have divisive political people but it would have to be balanced, not too many from one side and they mustn't give political speeches from our platform.
still think it important to include all angles rather than censor as MSM does: maybe have provisos eg. "all content is open to debate & doesn't necessarily reflect view of all KBF members", or something.....
Just re-read your post and yes, maybe, divisive political people would be a problem, which is a shame in a forum where freedom of speech is important. But I guess we have to play tactically in order to further the cause. There is bound to be disagreement but the most important thing is the fight for our freedom.
Any other ideas out there about increasing our membership and/or organising resources. And anyone know how to contact Simon? I don't do Facebook or Twitter. Does this site have moderators in touch with Simon?
Not from me, I'm a anti-social old fart... I'm not on twitter, but I to read the tweets of some key people.
Just add to what I said about KBF being apolitical... I see this group as not wanting to overthrow the government, it's about getting the government to uphold our basic rights to freedom, am I wrong?
100% correct, i'm still perplexed how people are so tribal that they see politics in this...
Hello Livvy, there is another post (look for comments made by Harminder Kambow and theo999) that suggested a campaign to alert people to saving cash which i would like to get my teeth into. My initial thoughts are flyers that can be put up around wherever you live and local town centre. The implications of a cashless society are truly terrifying and to be honest people need to be terrified into seeing what is coming our way, and what we stand to lose because at the moment they have chosen safety over freedom but they need to see that the government's illusion of safety is no such thing but propaganda that intends to enslave us.
Optics... How do we look to the public?
That march that Leah Butler-Smith organised, it was a good turnout for such short notice and it was covered by the press/media, however there was one person in the crowd who had a slogan about the 'Flat Earth', dunno if they were a plant or not, out of all the people on the march, who were all the cameras focussed on? Yep, the Flat Earther.... Not a good look if we want to gain public support.
I think a good tact is to focus on the government and the so called opposition, do they look like leadership? Are satisfied with their leadership and shapeshifting 'science'?
What has that got to do with how we look and how we gain public support?
I think scrutinising the elected officials and how they look should be important to the sheeple.
Kemi and clownworld, this is an important discussion about the credibility of KBF. I really see both sides. Kemi, you are right people need to be terrified into seeing the truth but hardly anyone is listening. Despite seeing inconsisitencies in Govt policies 99% of people I know (including many I would expect to be open-minded) are sold what they are being told by MSM - hence they are all wearing masks. I have really tried to 'enlighten' people but they think I'm mad. So I have to take a softly, softly approach and am concentrating on discussing the problems with masks and untested mandatory vaccines in the hope they will see logic. Once people see that they may start to think more widely, but, in my opinion, talking about more sinister aspects of all this just doesn't work. I find it as frustrating as hell and that's why we need each other's support.
Yep, gentle persuasion is what I see will work, that doesn't mean I don't see further than the surface.
I support a multi pronged approach, while i don't think people need to see the terrifying end game, because they won't believe it, they need to see the milestones on the road there such as deletion of cash and what this means, and that this won't end with covid, we've moved to corona now! Thing is, i don't believe people have not seen, or do not know of, the disclaimers on the packaging of masks that say 'does not protect against covid or coronaviruses', people are using the face coverings as a psychological comforter, i think they need to see that the government is not Mary Poppins. Again, i support a multi pronged approach.
Totally agree Kemi. Guess I just want to do something practical as one of the prongs and want ideas on how to take it forward in the best way.
clownworld I don't get your post about the names for CT Conspiracy Theorists. I hate that phrase and have been accused of being one. I like MG55's suggestion of critical thinkers or alternative thinkers. Not all so called conspiracy theorists are nutters by any means.
Critical thinkers and alternative thinkers are not the same, a critical thinker uses logic and rational thought, an alterative thinker does not by definition.
Conspiracies are real, they happen all the time, however some conspiracy theorists are critical thinkers others are alternative thinkers, some of the alternative thinkers are very irrational and very illogical.
Just because words in the English language start with the same letter does not equate to them meaning the same as other words that start with the same letter in the English language.
I fear you miss my point clownland. Life is illogical and irrational and I really don't want to argue semantics about an alternative name for conspiracy theorists. Let's concentrate on getting more support and fighting to Keep Britain Free the best way we can. I'm interested in the idea of a library of resouces, promoting the cause in the best way possible and fighting for freedom. Also getting more high-profile members. Any ideas anyone?
Here is a post, by some very sensible person, on Peter Hitchens twitter which is very relevant, please read it and absorb because if we are not very careful on how we are portrayed to the public by the legacy media we are going nowhere....
"Peter (Hitchens) may well suspect something more sinister, as I do, but cannot say so because he'd never be allowed on MSM again & would be condemned like David Icke. We have to respect the fact, unbearable though it is, already some things cannot be said"