We will be going and I am trying to encourage friends and family to attend, but I have had to think long and hard about attending. I am not a conspiracy theorist and really don't want to be associated with any of the theories that I think make the general public dismiss us as mad. I am still trying to think of a slogan that appeals to rational and logic, that is short and to the point, and tries to make the point that the continued global disruption to our economy is way out of proportion to the danger posed by this virus. (and yes, I do believe there is a virus). and this is why folk are reticent to commiting to attending. If only we could get properly credible speakers at a rally....
I understand that all the professional experienced doctors who will be speaking live or by video link are MORE than credible!
Perhaps there might be a virus.... but certainly not of the type being fear-mongered! - whatever it might be, it is CLEARLY no more 'dangerous' than any other strain which has been circulating for years (and in many cases -treatable!) .....and a whole lot less lethal than the strain we had approx 3 years ago - but no govt chose to use that for an authoritarion take over.
'Conspiracy thoeorist' or not, NOTHING which has happened over these last months makes actual sense. And when nothing makes sense, particularly at high & deep levels of government, common sense itself suggests an alternative insidious agenda at play. I don't for one moment imagine that our senior government ministers are stupid and don't know what they are doing! They have carefully and quickly assumed absolute control - fascist type control. WHY?
WHY the monumental level of media censorship?
WHY threaten NHS staff about speaking out? (yes, I (and many others) know that to be true. first hand).
WHAT is government hiding? WHY are we being lied to?
Also just take a look at the numerous corruption legal actions which are now being taken against this government by the Good Law Project (check their Crowdfunding pages for informative summaries) and the outrageous response by the government so far. Have you seen what they are doing with OUR money? Call it conspiracy, call it what you want or don't want. Fact is, we've been stripped of our fundamental human rights and freedom of speech. Political / financial and HEALTH corruption is at a level which is off the scale! TRUTH is being suffocated.
@Gery W All true and well said.Our rights have been removed since 9/11...Surveillance/Police state...Freedom of Speech etc..Why are we being lied to?New World Order...plain and simple.There is nothing wrong or crazy about being labelled a Conspiracy Theorist...it's a badge of honour.
@Gery W imo the speakers are all suspect. Which is why 'why' is divisive. whatever our reasons for wanting this charade to end, we are united in wanting it to end. Extreme/hard to comprehend/ views marginalise the immediate message. Getting people to consider the evidence of their own eyes, is much easier than getting them to believe that a lizard intelligence is behind it all.
I understand your fears commonsense but the lizard intelligence conspiracy theory propaganda is really not working now - or such a threat.
Evidence is indeed key and it's out there. To allay your fears listen to Dolores Cahill in Dublin last week - all the way through. This is all fact and evidence. See if you think she is in any way suspect. She has promised to speak in London and the other doctors are also very credible just like her - check them out.
commonsense - I would genuinely be very interested to hear your view of why Saturday's proposed speakers are 'suspect'. I would also like to understand why you feel that asking 'WHY' is divisive. When it comes to questioning anything, my own feelings are that it invites independent critical thinking.....
@LivvyB thanks LivvyB, I had googled the names that are on the poster promoting the march this saturday. I will share what I found later as I have to go out right now. I am glad I watched Dolores. She sticks mainly to points I can support, especially about the danger from covid and vaccinating children.
@Gery W, we dont have time for critical thinking, and the majority arent prepared to give it the time in any case. The message has to be simple, direct and relateable. That is why the governments messages work so well.
lizard intelligence...that's a David Icke one!....but he's NOT SO CRAZY. I adore David Icke and have been watching his interviews with Londonrealtv [Brian Rose...another HERO] over the past few months.Switched off the BBC/mouthpiece of FEAR and Misinformation.Actually isn't that a Government department...The Ministry of Misinformation.
And of course there is always our own totally down to earth, rather well informed Dr Malcolm Kendrick:
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
SO MANY SCIENTISTS & MEDICAL PEOPLE ROUND THE GLOBE - They must all be insane????
I mean WHY would our government and governments round the world be taking the action they are if not an insidious alternative agenda..........is that a 'conspiracy theory' ?! It all stinks of the deepest level of financial and political corruption and CONTROL.
Okay, so if I can't get to the Berlin event (which is looking less possible as my accommodation and plans fell through German-side) I am very keen to join you all and it is a short journey effectively for me from Cambridgeshire. I will try and get to Charing X main exit, I think a few folk are meeting up there from KBF. Yes, KBF need to be very involved in this!
Government declared this virus to be of no consequence on March 19
Lockdown the week after was to flatten the curve, protect the vulnerable, not overwhelm the NHS. The last objective was achieved by shutting the NHS, stopping the care homes sending those that needed it going to hospital, putting DNRs on many, etc. Definitely not looking after the vulnerable.
Look at the data showing the non-covid deaths to reveal the harms being done by government strategies - UK Column’s Lock down deaths, not covid deaths, Hector Drummond week 31 graphs.
Cheap effective treatments are denied.
UK citizens subjected to HCQ trials using toxic doses and no mention in MSM and no medical negligence case being brought. Again UK Column’s HCQ scandal
Death certificate change that would make Shipman a very happy man
Health officers can take you to Assessment centres. Both from CV Act 2020
Academy of Medical Science report by Ferguson team at Imperial College London has some suggestions to make your blood run cold, such as house inspectors for ensuring hygiene and distancing, with alternatives suggested if people don’t/can’t comply.
The last 3 points sound like how the holocaust was introduced.
Then people say to me ’But that won’t happen/They wouldn’t do that‘
To which I reply, “Well they are - look at the data. Do we want to live like this for 2 more years, at least?“
Oh and I haven’t even included here the misuse and misrepresentation of PCR testing.
The wanton ‘incompetence’ of procuring equipment and facilities, etc.
It’s not about the virus, it’s about the misuse of power and our resources.
The cruelties that are being inflicted on so many people.
And all this was put in place when the stated objective was to ‘flatten the curve’, which has now moved on to ‘eradication of the virus’ it seems. Abject failure for the first and certain failure for the second.
Siobahn Dillon - I like your comment -'Death certificate change that would make Shipman a very happy man'. Yes, Shipman would be rubbing his hands with glee if he were still alive, knowing that the NHS and Government herded thousands of old people with possible Covid19 from hospitals back into nursing homes. Many of which didn't even have a sniff of the virus at the time. And to think the whole lockdown was supposedly put in place to protect the elderly and vulnerable that were at most risk from the virus. Also, Dr Shipman, if you are looking at this country from some place beyond the grave, have a read of this piece from the Daily Telegraph. You will love it!
'Care homes were asked by NHS managers and GPs to place blanket ‘Do not resuscitate’ (DNR) orders on all their residents at the height of the coronavirus pandemic to keep hospital beds free, a new report has found.
The Queen’s Nursing Institute (QNI) – the world’s oldest nursing charity – discovered one in 10 care home staff surveyed was ordered to change DNR plans without discussion with family members, nursing staff, or with the residents themselves.
Half of staff members who said they had been asked to change DNRs worked in homes for the elderly, while half worked in homes for younger people with learning or cognitive disabilities.
Staff also warned that some hospitals were operating a ‘no admissions’ policy for care home residents – even for non-Covid-19 conditions such as heart attacks.
These decisions were being made by NHS managers not clinicians. And this wasn’t just happening with elderly people, it was those with learning disabilities or cognitive problems of all ages.'
Martin Murray - Looking at the tourist guide, I do believe Trafalgar Square is a wonderful place to have a mid day stroll round. There are some nice Lion Sculptures by one of my favourite artists Edwin Landseer. Do have a look Martin, I'm sure you won't be disappointed! 😉
There is another Berlin event this Saturday, coinciding with many others around the world, including the one where hopefully many of us will be, in London
I still don’t understand why KBF or Simon don’t confirm their involvement. Why only alternative American doctors are involved with no British experts invited. Crowd funding page doesn’t explain who is funding this, as the donations not sufficient to finance such an event.
Hmm. I don't understand either. Maybe Leah Butler-Smith would know? I think there are British and Irish experts involved - Prof. Dolores Cahil, Dr Mohammed Adil, Kate Shemirani... Donations not sufficient?
I only heard 1 american voice over the loudspeakers, so what you've said, Evelina, I would suggest is BS. Are you an infiltrator by any chance?
StandupX have the event on their site. Save Our Rights UK have it on their FB page, as do Collective Action Against Bill Gates, and here's a video from the Free People Alliance...
I think Leah retweeted the funding request about 7 hours ago and now it's well above the original £9.5k target and close to the new one. Feels as if many people are going and there should be a mix of UK speakers and others from elsewhere joining on the big video screen the money is being raised for. Probably difficult to get currently working GMC registered doctors to talk but a couple of hundred NHS nurses and other medical workers participated in our KBF survey.
I so wish i could come. I couldnt find anyone free to look after my boy and i didnt want to bring him along, he is of the age where he would be bored and moaning if standing around for a few hours 😒
Maybe another kid friendly event could be organised before Autumn.
Anyway i am with everyone 100% tomorrow. Will be watching what i can online. Does anyone know if a full event live stream will be going on? Or can anyone share video uploads here as and when they can. Im sure there are tons of us that want to come but cant, so any vid's of tomorrow will be great.
StandUpX [facebook/twitter] might be doing a live stream.Anna Brees[youtube] interviewed Kelly Ann Scott of StandUpX and I think it was mentioned. Yes it's difficult going on demos with young children, mine are grown up and so we are going! The Force is with all of us who challenge this Establishment crap.
Some of the Irish enthusiasm that we in the UK could continue with this Saturday...
We will be going and I am trying to encourage friends and family to attend, but I have had to think long and hard about attending. I am not a conspiracy theorist and really don't want to be associated with any of the theories that I think make the general public dismiss us as mad. I am still trying to think of a slogan that appeals to rational and logic, that is short and to the point, and tries to make the point that the continued global disruption to our economy is way out of proportion to the danger posed by this virus. (and yes, I do believe there is a virus). and this is why folk are reticent to commiting to attending. If only we could get properly credible speakers at a rally....
I understand that all the professional experienced doctors who will be speaking live or by video link are MORE than credible!
Perhaps there might be a virus.... but certainly not of the type being fear-mongered! - whatever it might be, it is CLEARLY no more 'dangerous' than any other strain which has been circulating for years (and in many cases -treatable!) .....and a whole lot less lethal than the strain we had approx 3 years ago - but no govt chose to use that for an authoritarion take over.
'Conspiracy thoeorist' or not, NOTHING which has happened over these last months makes actual sense. And when nothing makes sense, particularly at high & deep levels of government, common sense itself suggests an alternative insidious agenda at play. I don't for one moment imagine that our senior government ministers are stupid and don't know what they are doing! They have carefully and quickly assumed absolute control - fascist type control. WHY?
WHY the monumental level of media censorship?
WHY threaten NHS staff about speaking out? (yes, I (and many others) know that to be true. first hand).
WHAT is government hiding? WHY are we being lied to?
Also just take a look at the numerous corruption legal actions which are now being taken against this government by the Good Law Project (check their Crowdfunding pages for informative summaries) and the outrageous response by the government so far. Have you seen what they are doing with OUR money? Call it conspiracy, call it what you want or don't want. Fact is, we've been stripped of our fundamental human rights and freedom of speech. Political / financial and HEALTH corruption is at a level which is off the scale! TRUTH is being suffocated.
@Gery W All true and well said.Our rights have been removed since 9/11...Surveillance/Police state...Freedom of Speech etc..Why are we being lied to?New World Order...plain and simple.There is nothing wrong or crazy about being labelled a Conspiracy Theorist...it's a badge of honour.
How about: Turn FEER into FREE! ?
straight and to the point for sure @Jong 😉
@Gery W imo the speakers are all suspect. Which is why 'why' is divisive. whatever our reasons for wanting this charade to end, we are united in wanting it to end. Extreme/hard to comprehend/ views marginalise the immediate message. Getting people to consider the evidence of their own eyes, is much easier than getting them to believe that a lizard intelligence is behind it all.
Howabout
'Stop the Charade. Do Not Comply. Save Lives.
I understand your fears commonsense but the lizard intelligence conspiracy theory propaganda is really not working now - or such a threat.
Evidence is indeed key and it's out there. To allay your fears listen to Dolores Cahill in Dublin last week - all the way through. This is all fact and evidence. See if you think she is in any way suspect. She has promised to speak in London and the other doctors are also very credible just like her - check them out.
As far a slogan goes - Dolores says 'Truth and Freedom' and that, in my opinion, is pretty hard to beat.
Nobody is denying a flu like virus exists - just that the response has been totally disproportionate and effective treatment is available.
commonsense - I would genuinely be very interested to hear your view of why Saturday's proposed speakers are 'suspect'. I would also like to understand why you feel that asking 'WHY' is divisive. When it comes to questioning anything, my own feelings are that it invites independent critical thinking.....
@LivvyB thanks LivvyB, I had googled the names that are on the poster promoting the march this saturday. I will share what I found later as I have to go out right now. I am glad I watched Dolores. She sticks mainly to points I can support, especially about the danger from covid and vaccinating children.
@Gery W, we dont have time for critical thinking, and the majority arent prepared to give it the time in any case. The message has to be simple, direct and relateable. That is why the governments messages work so well.
Who said anything about a lizard intelligence?
lizard intelligence...that's a David Icke one!....but he's NOT SO CRAZY. I adore David Icke and have been watching his interviews with Londonrealtv [Brian Rose...another HERO] over the past few months.Switched off the BBC/mouthpiece of FEAR and Misinformation.Actually isn't that a Government department...The Ministry of Misinformation.
Also worth reading (and sharing!)..........Dr Meryl Nass MD https://ahrp.org/how-a-false-covid-19-narrative-was-created-sustained-for-six-months/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=5f183b9d-f493-46f4-b6c8-0b6852651b6d
And of course there is always our own totally down to earth, rather well informed Dr Malcolm Kendrick:
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
SO MANY SCIENTISTS & MEDICAL PEOPLE ROUND THE GLOBE - They must all be insane????
I mean WHY would our government and governments round the world be taking the action they are if not an insidious alternative agenda..........is that a 'conspiracy theory' ?! It all stinks of the deepest level of financial and political corruption and CONTROL.
Okay, so if I can't get to the Berlin event (which is looking less possible as my accommodation and plans fell through German-side) I am very keen to join you all and it is a short journey effectively for me from Cambridgeshire. I will try and get to Charing X main exit, I think a few folk are meeting up there from KBF. Yes, KBF need to be very involved in this!
It looks like I can’t make this one.
@commononsense
The points I try to raise with people are:
Government declared this virus to be of no consequence on March 19
Lockdown the week after was to flatten the curve, protect the vulnerable, not overwhelm the NHS. The last objective was achieved by shutting the NHS, stopping the care homes sending those that needed it going to hospital, putting DNRs on many, etc. Definitely not looking after the vulnerable.
Look at the data showing the non-covid deaths to reveal the harms being done by government strategies - UK Column’s Lock down deaths, not covid deaths, Hector Drummond week 31 graphs.
Cheap effective treatments are denied.
UK citizens subjected to HCQ trials using toxic doses and no mention in MSM and no medical negligence case being brought. Again UK Column’s HCQ scandal
Death certificate change that would make Shipman a very happy man
Health officers can take you to Assessment centres. Both from CV Act 2020
Academy of Medical Science report by Ferguson team at Imperial College London has some suggestions to make your blood run cold, such as house inspectors for ensuring hygiene and distancing, with alternatives suggested if people don’t/can’t comply.
The last 3 points sound like how the holocaust was introduced.
Then people say to me ’But that won’t happen/They wouldn’t do that‘
To which I reply, “Well they are - look at the data. Do we want to live like this for 2 more years, at least?“
Oh and I haven’t even included here the misuse and misrepresentation of PCR testing. The wanton ‘incompetence’ of procuring equipment and facilities, etc.
It’s not about the virus, it’s about the misuse of power and our resources.
The cruelties that are being inflicted on so many people.
And all this was put in place when the stated objective was to ‘flatten the curve’, which has now moved on to ‘eradication of the virus’ it seems. Abject failure for the first and certain failure for the second.
Perfectly put - in my humble opinion!
Siobahn Dillon - I like your comment -'Death certificate change that would make Shipman a very happy man'. Yes, Shipman would be rubbing his hands with glee if he were still alive, knowing that the NHS and Government herded thousands of old people with possible Covid19 from hospitals back into nursing homes. Many of which didn't even have a sniff of the virus at the time. And to think the whole lockdown was supposedly put in place to protect the elderly and vulnerable that were at most risk from the virus. Also, Dr Shipman, if you are looking at this country from some place beyond the grave, have a read of this piece from the Daily Telegraph. You will love it!
'Care homes were asked by NHS managers and GPs to place blanket ‘Do not resuscitate’ (DNR) orders on all their residents at the height of the coronavirus pandemic to keep hospital beds free, a new report has found.
The Queen’s Nursing Institute (QNI) – the world’s oldest nursing charity – discovered one in 10 care home staff surveyed was ordered to change DNR plans without discussion with family members, nursing staff, or with the residents themselves.
Half of staff members who said they had been asked to change DNRs worked in homes for the elderly, while half worked in homes for younger people with learning or cognitive disabilities.
Staff also warned that some hospitals were operating a ‘no admissions’ policy for care home residents – even for non-Covid-19 conditions such as heart attacks.
These decisions were being made by NHS managers not clinicians. And this wasn’t just happening with elderly people, it was those with learning disabilities or cognitive problems of all ages.'
This is why I will be there .I am 76 and will have to travel from the IOW so not that easy with the ferries but:
Next month the Coronavirus Bill is up for its first “6-month review”,
Parliament can vote to end the Bill, let it run for its full two years, or even extend it.
This Act virtually gives the Government the power to rule by decree.
Should it be renewed for another two years as they wish then the freedoms that we enjoyed as our right on 1st January 2020 will never return.
"If we are not willing to fight for our rights then we do not deserve them.
If we do not defend our freedoms we will be enslaved."
Join those who are willing to fight for those rights and defend those freedoms on Saturday 29th August
Not for ourselves but for our children and grandchildren.
Absolutely agree! Huge hugs, love and light to you!
Definitely agree!
Well said WuzzyG. Hope you have a smooth journey.
@WuzzyG you are absolutely right. We absolutely have to remind people that the act can be stopped, not only by legal challenge.
Does anybody know what day Parliament will be getting to vote on this?
Do the Lords have to approve it too?
What exactly is the process?
Whether or not people can attend demos, they can definitely write to their MPs and talk to people. Knowing deadlines is helpful for motivation
Yes, knowing process would be useful. But my MP is a waste of space. Written already twice to her and she's a complete sheep and sound asleep!
@Siobhan Dillon Doesn't seem a date has been set as yet, need to keep checking the parliament calendar - link below.
https://calendar.parliament.uk/calendar/Commons/All/2020/9/1/Daily
I think Saturday will be a nice day to visit our lovely capital and all its wonderful sights :)
Martin Murray - Looking at the tourist guide, I do believe Trafalgar Square is a wonderful place to have a mid day stroll round. There are some nice Lion Sculptures by one of my favourite artists Edwin Landseer. Do have a look Martin, I'm sure you won't be disappointed! 😉
A reminder of the recent Berlin event...
There is another Berlin event this Saturday, coinciding with many others around the world, including the one where hopefully many of us will be, in London
Thanks for posting Jong...SO great to see.
I still don’t understand why KBF or Simon don’t confirm their involvement. Why only alternative American doctors are involved with no British experts invited. Crowd funding page doesn’t explain who is funding this, as the donations not sufficient to finance such an event.
Hmm. I don't understand either. Maybe Leah Butler-Smith would know? I think there are British and Irish experts involved - Prof. Dolores Cahil, Dr Mohammed Adil, Kate Shemirani... Donations not sufficient?
I only heard 1 american voice over the loudspeakers, so what you've said, Evelina, I would suggest is BS. Are you an infiltrator by any chance?
StandupX have the event on their site. Save Our Rights UK have it on their FB page, as do Collective Action Against Bill Gates, and here's a video from the Free People Alliance...
Perhaps this will help:
I'm going
We're ready!
I’ll be there even if it’s pissing down 👍
I think Leah retweeted the funding request about 7 hours ago and now it's well above the original £9.5k target and close to the new one. Feels as if many people are going and there should be a mix of UK speakers and others from elsewhere joining on the big video screen the money is being raised for. Probably difficult to get currently working GMC registered doctors to talk but a couple of hundred NHS nurses and other medical workers participated in our KBF survey.
I so wish i could come. I couldnt find anyone free to look after my boy and i didnt want to bring him along, he is of the age where he would be bored and moaning if standing around for a few hours 😒
Maybe another kid friendly event could be organised before Autumn.
Anyway i am with everyone 100% tomorrow. Will be watching what i can online. Does anyone know if a full event live stream will be going on? Or can anyone share video uploads here as and when they can. Im sure there are tons of us that want to come but cant, so any vid's of tomorrow will be great.
Distrust the Goverment
Avoid Mass media
Fight the Lies
May the force be with you 😉
StandUpX [facebook/twitter] might be doing a live stream.Anna Brees[youtube] interviewed Kelly Ann Scott of StandUpX and I think it was mentioned. Yes it's difficult going on demos with young children, mine are grown up and so we are going! The Force is with all of us who challenge this Establishment crap.
Worlds Gone Nuts - We were there and did you proud! ❤️