A new form of argument we should try making

So, since before the day that will live in infamy when the Uk tok our rights away, I've been anti-lockdown, but I've also been pro-vaccine, that is pro-vaccine-for-thse-who-want-it. I've also been strongly anti-authoritarian, and anti-coercive-measures.

Now as things stand today the vaccine seems to work, and the UK is doing pretty well rolling it out, yet we are still under the lockdown jackboot despite every vulnerable person who wants said vaccine now having had it. Amid all this the vaccine is very popular indeed, and whilst many might not want to have it themselves, preaching against it doesn't win people any widespread support.

Lockdown is thankfully collapsing, plenty of people violating it, and in the vulnerable categories too. 40% of over 80s have now been openly defying Hancock's bullsh*t, and good on them, they need the health benefits which physical company brings. The big threat we are facing now is those zero-covid-fantasists who would condemn us to an eternal new-abnormal by failing to recognise that covid is OVER! They want eternal testing, they want zero-covid, they want a global lockdown decalred for every dropped tissue (even though they're the ones responsible for all that mask litter in the hedges)...

Particularly insidious is the danger of vaccine passports, the idea that people should have to prove their status to access the fundamentals of freedom is disgusting. And we can use that natural disgust to our advantage. We need to make it clear that "if you love the vaccine you should hate the passport". We've seen that defance of lockdown lunacy has surged among the newly vaccinated vulnerable, they've decided that the vaccine isn't worth much if it doesn't give them back their freedom. And freedom is something everyone needs, whether they choose the vaccine or not. There is a good argument to be made here which should help get vaccine supporters turning against vaccine passports, focus not on fears about the vacicne, but the explicit dangers of such "passports" to everyone.

Make points like:

"Why should the vaccinated be put through the humiliation of having to prove they're vaccinated"

, other than a few zero-covid-psychopaths most of the people who want the vaccine want it as a way back to normal, they won't welcome a world where despite the vaccine they have to live like a lockdown.

"The vaccine works well for those who take it, why should they have to show passes to say they're safe to be around those who wouldn't take it"

, anti-vax opinions aren't popular in the wide public. The logic is unquestionable, in a population of vaccinated and unvaccinated the vaccinated are safe from covid because the vaccine works (for anyone who wishes to say it doesn't work, just remember that whether it works or not all the pro-vaxxers will think it does), the unvaccinated might not be safe from covid (a mild illness for most anyway) but are unvaccinated by choice. If covid comes along in to such a population then the only people who will catch it are the unvaccinated, even then many would likely have natural immunity to stop it. People who take a vaccine won't appreciate jumping through stupid hoops of passes for what can only, when they walk through the logic, look to be "protecting" those who didn't want the vaccine's protection.

"If the vaccine is to be a path to freedom we can't accept a world where freedom can be taken away at a twiddle of a government record"

, undoubtedly any kind of ID pass to acess public locations will be, just as we see in China and especially Hong Kong, used to label dissidents as "infected". Any system of tracking supposedly for health will, like in Singapore and Australia, quickly find the data being used for corrupt policing too, not to mention how trap-and-trace records in the UK get handed to the cops. Focus on this aspect of the dangers of a pass system, someone who has "been good and got all thei jabs" can still be made an unperson for anything else with just a sneaky adjustment of medical records. Those wanting the vaccine won't be happy at the thought they can be made an un-persn, [b]and be made to look like a vaccine-refuser at the same time[/b] (that is the emphasis as they will see it), despite having had the jab.

The point we need to be clear on here is that there is no ground to be gained by arguing against people's right to have the vacine if they want it, personally I'm on the 50:50 as to getting it (covid is scarcely worse than flu at my age, but if a mere jab can stop a week of coughing misery it might be worth it), and many of the public are so brainwashed with fear-propaganda that they won't listen to the perfectly reasonable argument of "I don't like having medical interventions forced on me", but the argument that any passport scheme will just become an obstacle to normal life for the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated is a strong one.

If you don't want the vaccine, don't have it, but remember that to stop totalitarian instruments of social control being rolled out we need to get the majority onboard. The majority like the vaccine, but they expect normality back when they've had it. The majority are not like the zero-covid-fantasists, the zero covid fantasists want a vaccine and yet don't even trust it to work enough for them to release humanity from lockdowns, the majority want the vaccine as a way out, not as some bizarre rite of initiation that the z-c-f do. We can have normality back right f***ing now, the majority may be foolish enough to let the waiting go on a bit longer, but they want normality too and they want it soon, they're already silently violating lockdowns in most ways. Let them see the vaccine as a way to normality if they want to, but ensure above all that they hold by the principle that it is to actual normality, not the-new-abnormal, and that it is a per-person thing, once they feel themselves safe, vaccinated or not, it isn't going to matter to them what anybody else's immunity status is. Our message needs to be one of telling the majority that, whether they choose vaccination or not, they will not get normality back unless they reject and resist any kind of passes and QR codes tracking scheme. I know many of you reading this will not want the vaccine yourselves, as is your right, but you can still get a long way with the phrase:

"If I've had the vaccine why should I have the embarassment of having to prove it, why should my life be interrupted by some stasi demanding my ID, being asked for ID to prove I'm free means I'm not free at all"

That is the argument which can stop a new-abnormal of passes and ubiquitous surveillance, and if you don't want the vacine yourself, it is still that argument which is the strongest one you can use to stop it being forced upon you.