Keeping things simple here;- It is now generally accepted that, using the same PCR tests as they use on the population, covid 19 was present in water samples taken from sewers in Europe and Brazil as long ago as October (maybe even March) 2019. That said; ask yourself two simple questions;
1. If the virus was present in the population at that time why didn't it spread like wildfire and kill the predicted millions when everyone was hugging and kissing and shaking hands, mass events were taking place as normal all over the world, airlines where conveying people all over the world and almost no-one was wearing a mask?
2. Why did the disease suddenly run rampant though the population of the whole world very shortly AFTER lockdowns were imposed?
I think we all know the answers to both these questions but most people don't - they don't even want to or are too ignorant to ask them. I invite you all to politely pose these questions to anyone you interact with when the subject is raised (and let's face it, it's all everyone is talking about lately) and please feel free to copy and paste to social media etc.
PS. An argument may be made that the tests on the water samples may have been faulty (false positives/negatives etc). That argument would then imply that the PCR tests on the alleged "infected" are faulty too - QED.
Unfortunately, I have found that no matter what evidence I present to some friends, even from the most eminent, world-class scientists with pages of credentials, it's not enough for them. What I find very difficult to understand is that these very same friends, who are living in some weird state of denial, I have always thought of as intelligent as well as pretty anti-establishment. It's bizarre.
The question I pose, to the few still blind, is, if all these people are dying of the death virus, and our hopelessly mismanaged NHS is struggling, how come the funeral business is not desperately seeking assistance..... all those extra thousands of bodies..... reminds me of premium bonds, everyone knows about the big winners, but no one actually knows of a big winner.... but yes you are right, so many live in a bubble desperately clinging to a reality that just is not there.
I interact with many people and what I've seen and heard is that the majority are aware that this is all wrong somehow, many are silently defying the "regulations" but they are still afraid, not so much of a virus but of sticking out from the crowd, of being labelled "conspiracy theorist" or belonging to the "tin foil hat brigade"(maybe that's a British thing) They also seem unaware of the professional trolls on social media - they think they are real people. Keep plugging away!
So true. I started putting things on Facebook thinking a light bulb would go off and everyone would be horrified and demanding answers. However, I just feel like an alienated weirdo! I have intensified my assault of information though, why? Because there are two points I know are 100% correct. The damage of lockdown outweighs the damage the virus could inflict and my children's future is being eroded.
Me too. I talk to taxi drivers, shop assistants/cashiers, neighbours etc.. In the real world that exists beyond social media, I've yet to come across someone who doesn't think it's all b@!!@x!
Can you provide citations for this post OP. I'd like to alienate myself further on Facebook!
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-virus-italy-december.html https://smartwatermagazine.com/news/smart-water-magazine/brazil-finds-coronavirus-sewage-sample-november-2019 https://en.mercopress.com/2020/06/21/waste-water-analysis-in-europe-advance-the-covid-19-pandemic-two-three-months-before-fist-reported-cases These are the most informative articles that I've found but most of the British main stream media ran with the story too. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ See" excess deaths " - all ages and age groups from 15-45 up to 85+. First national lockdown occured in Italy week 10. If they can read a graph then the message should be obvious. Good luck!
Link to Ivor Cummins' posts or those of Lockdown TV (see recent excellently balanced interview with Anders Tegnel equivalent of Prof Ferguson - equivalent in job title only I should add!).
But you are right you will be accused of being a selfish death monger. Feelings over facts everyone right?
If you understand how behavioural science works then you’ll understand why trying to ’inform’ any one on ‘the other side’ will only strengthen their resolve. A must read from our very own government of occupation, ‘mind space’, it’ll tell you exactly how they are manipulating the population through confusion and fear. You can even find reference to these tactics in the SAGE minutes.
Yes, I've read about the behavioural insights team but didn't know this. Shit, what a difficult situation - damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
Give them a simple analogy maybe? like you would a small child? Shout at them? I'm at my wit's end. Any ideas?
Yes, I came across a link on The Dollar Vigilante about how to win people over, you have to ensure you never disagree with what they say, but put questions to them that enables them to reach the conclusion you want them to reach, by themselves. It kind of reinforces the adage, 'It's easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled'. It also sounds like some NLP type course (neuro-linguistic programming)
Here's the link: I should add it costs I think $75 for the online course. I'm not selling anything here and I think if you really thought about it, you could design some questions that might help your loved ones see the situation more like you do.