So I have been reading a lot about Trump standing up to the Elites and that he is 'draining the swamp'. There is certainly some evidence he's not going along with all of it - he's the only head of state (apart from Bolsonaro and some African countries as far as I know) who is backing HCQ. He's arguing with Gates and now doesn't have Fauci as a side-kick all the time. And he said something like 'I have no friends' or 'I'm unpopular' in a recent press conference.
The press have always made him out to be an idiot and I confess I thought so too. Now I'm wondering if maybe I was wrong.
Was I?
Would be interested in the community's views. Thanks.
I'm on the fence about him Livvy. Not sure if he is the real deal or is part of the controlled opposition.
TPTB have three main ways to silence voices they don't want heard - 1, disappear them (difficult to do with a US President). 2, Assassinate them (see JFK, Abraham Lincoln, and maybe more recently Dr David Kelly of 'dodgy dossier' fame, plus multitudes more that were reported as suicides). 3, Ridicule them (see David Icke and anyone the MSM refer to as a 'tin-foil hat conspiracy nut'). So Donald would probably qualify on point three when you see the MSM narrative against him.
Having said all that, I haven't seen him accomplish a whole lot when it comes to draining the swamp, so as I say I'm 50/50 and hope to be pleasantly surprised in the future.
There have been 25 attempts on Trump's life since 2016 according to Dr. Rashid Buttar and others, but not publized due to the empathy and sympathy he'd receive. Whatever he's doing, long may it continue as the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.
Wow, I didn't know that Livvy, I'll check that out and reconsider my 50/50. Thanks for the update. 😎 EDIT: Sorry, I should have addressed that to Alexandra. 👀
Thanks Alexandra and LW, this is exactly the information and debate I wanted. Hope this carries on and we all learn something. Any other views?
Pro Trump. The lockdown revealed so much.... ....there are many saying he is our only hope and if he doesn't win its game over for humanity. I sure dont see anyone else helping us, esp in the UK. Boris has thrown us all under the bus.
I tend to think the intensity of the anti-Trump censorship speaks for itself.....
Having said that there are numerous things I dont understand which DO make me wonder....for instance.....Assange......5G...... the smoke and mirrors around mandatory vaxxing in the USA I can understand as its a political hot potato....
Yes, MG55, still lots that doesn't make sense. I guess Trump has to tread carefully for whatever reasons. He has power - but there are limitations and he may be playing a more skillful game than we realise? He is sending out a lot of messages he knows what is going on. His support of Dr Stella Immanuel was VERY encouraging.
He's a VERY good guy, the people who hate him don't understand how lucky we all are that he's there. There a reason why WikiLeaks had to come out against Hillary and the faction of entrenched corruption she represents - which is one in the same as the Bush family. You guys might like this meme video 'Trump Vs CNN Alien Queen' haha; twitter.com/Chewbacca20001/status/1272205877311877123
Thanks Doug
Both Trump and Johnson are obvious ZOG puppets.
Agreed. He clearly has links as they all have. His power is limited but he still seems to be making some effort to speak out. What do you think?
Admittedly it certainly appears on occasion that these leaders attempt to do the job they were elected to do. However, personally I view these efforts with scepticism for the following reason. As details of the Epstein/Maxwell business begin to emerge it appears on the face of it to confirm what many in the alternative sphere thought they knew for a long time, i.e. that the disgusting world of elite paedophiles is linked to security services (namely the Mossad) and their efforts to blackmail officials (including politicians, royalty and CEOs) at the highest level.
That being the case, if you were say Donald Trump (a quick google image search will reveal his intimate ties to both Epstein and Maxwell) would you consider it wise to go off message if your head was on the block?
Thanks Cliff, I agree there were definite links as you state. However, Trump was much younger then. Not sure is there are any links since he became president - do you have any? I just wonder if he turned against them when he was fighting Clinton for the presidency and since becoming President has made some effort to 'drain the swamp'. They wouldn't have been arrested if Hilary Clinton won.
Similarly he seems to support QAnon and she never would.
I am still open-minded on this and looking for opinions and evidence either way.
Pretty sure you're not going to find any links since he became president. But nevertheless, you can't just "switch off" blackmail. Publicly Trump may have appeared to distance himself from Epstein and crew but I'm damn sure Mossad still have the material evidence that could destroy him. His role as ZOG emperor is far more apparent in his attitude to Israel. It's not exactly a secret that he's possibly the most pro-Israeli pro-Zionist president of all time. His "gifting" of the Golan Heights and the moving of the US embassy to Jerusalem are just two examples, and Netanyahu remarked that he is “the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House.”
Also this https://www.cufi.org/trump-spending-cuts-leave-military-aid-to-israel-untouched/
BTW there's strong evidence suggesting that Q is an intelligence services operation.
I don't have evidence but I am suspicious. He could be the Joker in the pack. Recently was around 1 of these Wealth, Power n Old money types and its a different world they live in compared to ordinary mortals.....we are nothing to many of them, just disposable commodities...theres sooooo much we dont know or see going on behind closed doors...but 1 thing that seems obvious is they have ordinary Joe Blow over a barrel currently, with no intent to let up.....wave after wave of shocks predicted... and all coming at us from many different fronts, deliberately so, designed to scramble everyone to such a degree we'll be begging for order out of the chaos and fear and the Overlords can step in with their diabolical control mechanisms.....
Many say if Trump is not re-elected the whole planet is down the toilet. Thus all efforts must be made to get him back in. I would support him if I was in the USA because it seems like the best strategic move to make for extending the chances of survival.
I think he is a con artist and a bully just playing the political game when it comes down to it he will just fall in line with the global elite he has surrounded himself with goldman sachs people plus he never went ahead and prosecuted Hilliary Clinton for any of her crimes he ran casinos which are not exactly great for the wellbeing of people he is interested in fame and power and brags about how much money he has he doest uniteAmerica look at how divisive it where has he ever campaigned and stood up for human rights he is a businessman interested in living a rich lifestyle
He is also a war criminal same as the majority of US and Uk predients how can you be a good guy when you drop bombs on people and order illegalassinations
Thanks Cliff, NewMoon and curtin - I hope other people will keep contributing to this as the posts seem 50/50 and I'm still confused. Maybe the heading should be Donald Trump Bad Guy or Less Bad Guy? Anyone?
Mappin is pulling out all the stops to get Trump re-elected as he sees it as game over for the lot of us if Trump doesn't get in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtnnieFxMxQ&feature=youtu.be
Thanks for posting NewMoon, interesting video, I hadn't seen before.
He's clearly part of the psyop. Look at the facts. He allowed the US economy to be effectively broken, which is the prime goal of the people behind the NWO. He has spoken of delivering vaccines to the entire population using the military. He must know this whole thing is a hoax but he has done nothing to stop it. I was a Trump supporter up until the day the lockdown was imposed. I realised immediately I had been duped. I also realised that there were no longer any doubts about 9/11. It was stage one. We are in stage two. Things have become so bizarre they are saying that if people start ignoring this hoax they will do something even more ludicrous, such as fake an alien invasion. I no longer raise my eyes when I hear this. Judging by the response of the majority to this nonsense it is clear the vast majority of people on the planet are not very bright. So I really do believe billions would actually fall for it.
Thank you for your contribution stateless2 - very interesting.