Hi - good luck with sundays protest in Hyde Park, I'll be there in spirit.
As a side note I had a email from my local MP today regarding the KBF face mask letter, it was an arrogant response, deigned to put me in my place. I won't name or shame.
i won’t be wearing one. I have a medical condition but even if i hadn’t I wouldn’t comply. I never asked to be locked down, all my liberties revoked, and at the same time the government still taxed on my pension . Enough is enough
I am exempt but I wouldn't wear one if I wasn't. I have my Hidden Disabilities lanyard/badge but quite frankly I am bloody angry that I am needing to use that! I have been working right the way through this damn fiasco and carried on as normal like so many without masking up at the {so called} height of it. No one gave a stuff if I lived or died then, why all of a sudden now? Sick to the back teeth of it all, and have had more than enough! I truly wish I could be there at Hyde Park tomorrow, but it's too far for me to get to, will be cheering you all on in spirit.
I would love to name and shame - I'll say I'm from Hemel Hempstead, goolge local MP & you#ll find Sir MP.
Good luck with tomorrow - I'm there in spirit & next friday, when that dark day our last peice of freedom dies, when we're basically asking permission to breath oxygen, in a year when all this is done I'm intend to sue the government for making my life sheer utter f##king hell.
My MP is George Foreman I have written to him twice now about CV-19, I got a pretty (but standard) reply to my first letter, and an 'acknowledging' reply to my email about masks. I am not holding my breath for a favourable, or non-standard, reply. I just watched Friday 17th's UKColumn and at the end Brian said don't lose hope, keep writing and keep the replies, it shows you have tried and that they have not.
I sent the KBF template letter to my MP and this was their response:
Thank you for your email. I appreciate that you have taken the time to share your views with me on this.
I should start by saying I do not like the idea of compulsion at all and I want to ensure we can lift this measure as soon as possible. I completely support the points you have made.
It would have been my preference to keep this guidance voluntary and put our trust in the public’s common sense. Throughout this crisis people have shown amazing sensitivity towards other people and understanding of the needs to get the virus down by doing things cooperatively. The public have overwhelmingly adhered to government guidance and many have decided to use face masks without the need for enforcement.
I am particularly concerned that similar guidance could be introduced for other settings in future and I will make my thoughts on this known to Ministers.
Kind regards
Greg
Towing the line with the bulk of the response but the last paragraph was at least promising!
I'd be happy to have a Keep Britain Free poster in my window to show people who pass by where I stand and hopefully get others who agree to do the same. Unfortunately, I don't have a printer and I think an A3 size poster would be more visible anyway. Could anyone print one up for me? I'm happy to pay for the cost and postage.
I was in my local Aldi today and ALL of the staff wore masks. They don't have to while sat at the till as they are behind the screens. Last week I saw 2 muzzles.......today was awful. I would guess that up to 50% of customers wore them. I felt surrounded and could feel myself getting anxious. I could not get out of the shop quick enough. I couldn't look the staff in the eyes when I paid, I wanted to ask about the muzzles but just couldn't. I feel sick as fu*k about this.
I'm off to put up KBF posters around my local area tonight and hopefully spread the good word!
I'm the same, what is happening really is sickening and scary. I'm waking up each day with anxiety and I'm not what you would consider to be a 'snowflake' quire the opposite. I'm deeply concerned about the future my young son will have. I feel very worried and desperately need hope. I am still struggling to believe it is actually happening in this country. The thing is so many are against it but don't speak up. We are simply giving them the power, we could take it away if everyone stood up and spoke out.
Dylan, whilst I run the risk of being labelled a crazy conspiracy theorist I’d like to explain what I believe is under way - in the hope it may provide some reassurance. What is happening right now has been long planned by those who hold - and have long held - the levers of power. Note, I do not use the word government. The world changed in 2016 with Brexit & Donald Trump. Then we saw the mass media hate campaign begin - and is ongoing. The controlling elites became threatened like never before and began a desperate push to regain the Whitehouse. it is no coincidence that COVID-19, BLM division etc etc is happening in an election year. The bid for power has now accelerated to a level never seen before - aided by a corrupt global media. The government guidelines that so affect our lives are those of scientists and big pharma associates, with bought and paid for politicians assisting them. I believe Trump, Boris Johnson and their global allies are playing ball until such time as the hammer drops, truth comes out and the crooks exposed. I hope this could be as early as November. It is clear that a massive amount is happening behind the scenes - things our media dare not report. For example, whilst the US justice system normally holds approximately 2,000 sealed indictments in its system at any one time, there are currently over 150,000. Through Executive Orders since 2017 the way has been cleared for military tribunals for treason and sedition cases, clarification made for the death penalty for ‘enemy combatants’, and that term defined. Guantanamo Bay has been massively expanded and staffed by military trained to deal with high status inmates. Also built there is a geriatric wing. So there are those who will not be coming out. Trump promised to drain the swamp. Many here in the U.K. believed this to be limited to Washington. Not so. It is global. I believe the swamp is being taken down right now. The public are being shown an absolute evil that, had we been told many would never have believed and the media would have gone into overdrive to debunk. No, we are being shown. Only then will we all realise and have the will for change. Events are painful right now, but this is necessary to get to a better world. Those ruling elites i mentioned before have been responsible for war, pain misery, sickness and poverty. We cannot imagine a world without them - but I believe such a world is not too far away. What we are experiencing has nothing do with a virus and everything to do with power. Power at any cost. A Trump win in November is key. If America falls, we all fall - but I don’t believe that will happen. I remain optimistic and I hope this has helped you in some way.
I also wrote to my local MP Sir Roger Gale, he was also very rude, dismissive and arrogant. I did reply and made sure I told him what I thought of his attitude and let him know he just lost 2 future votes.
On July 21, gov.uk had this to say about Health and Safety at work, re: Covid:
6.1 Face coverings
There are some circumstances when wearing a face covering may be marginally beneficial as a precautionary measure. The evidence suggests that wearing a face covering does not protect you, but it may protect others if you are infected but have not developed symptoms.
...
It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of using a face covering to protect others is weak and the effect is likely to be small,
So on July 23rd, the UK government re-edited previously clear advice on face-mask wearing to fit their post 24th narrative.
On what new evidence would these edits be based on - evidence which presumably did not exist for the entire time the "pandemic" was at its UK height?
This seems like incompetent, misleading manipulation. Incompetent for its timing (the night before the 24th !?), and misleading because it shows a point of view which is contradictory to a point of view just 24 hours earlier.
Sigh, is this something you can use in your legal challenge, Simon?
RM - that is truly scary. Have you sent copies to Lord Sumption? He is the only one in the legal system I have seen speaking out.....it needs to be broadcast imo......basically Cummings is taking the piss (again) and behaving as he likes because he knows he has the backing of Boris at all times..... this whole thing beggars belief....
I've seen mask procurement deals in other countries. Frankly, I think this is just an opportunity for some into that type of business or well connected. But considering the whole situation, this is marginal.
I would focus on the nature of mixed messages which have clearly shown how all Goverments know nothing about this virus and are advised by a dedicated group of people taking orders directly from the WHO.
Every country I've analyzed has had the same approach and has given confusing messages.
Partly for a genuine incompetence probably, partly as there seems to be a global plan for a massive change.
They started experimenting new types of vaccines with mRNA technology.
These vaccines are not tested and fundamental testing practices are being skipped.
The average Joe has no idea of what a virus or a vaccine really is and the fact that there is no mention of any discussion or debate around these topics at political level or public level is something that alone should be an alarming bell.
I understand your reluctance to ‘name & shame’ but I feel naming & shaming to be an absolute necessity. We hear nothing but ‘unprecedented times’, difficulties, challenging etc etc, but we find increasingly that government guidelines are just that - guidelines. This is a cowardly caveat that allows them to fall back on the excuse that steps taken were a matter of choice. They will do this when truth comes out about the global hoax - as it is already doing so. The individuals guilty of overreach and despotism are those whose identities should be widely known, as only then will the wider public be able to respond accordingly, either at the ballot box or by boycotting tyranical companies. Name them and shame them, for they would not hesitate to do so if tables were turned.
Having worked in the pharmaceutical microbiology world for the past 13 years (I am not a microbiologist, I just worked my way up through the system) monitoring cleanrooms, hospital theatres, human tissue banks, hospital instrument sterile services etc for viable and non viable particulates, I can attest to the wearing of surgical masks for extended periods of time and just how uncomfortable they are, especially for a wearer of glasses! This link to a blog post I found over on the UK Column forum sums up the points I make to people who will listen:
"Unlike the public wearing masks in the community, surgeons work in sterile surgical suites equipped with heavy duty air exchange systems that maintain positive pressures, exchange and filter the room air at a very high level, and increase the oxygen content of the room air. These conditions limit the negative effects of masks on the surgeon and operating room staff. And yet despite these extreme climate control conditions, clinical studies demonstrate the negative effects (lowering arterial oxygen and carbon dioxide re-breathing) of surgical masks on surgeon physiology and performance.
Surgeons and operating room personnel are well trained, experienced, and meticulous about maintaining sterility. We only wear fresh sterile masks. We don the mask in a sterile fashion. We wear the mask for short periods of time and change it out at the first signs of the excessive moisture build up that we know degrades mask effectiveness and increases their negative effects. Surgeons NEVER re-use surgical masks, nor do we ever wear cloth masks."
If I sneezed in a mask I had to change it as soon as I could, but I also always had to turn my head away from the area in which I was taking microbiological samples, as it is commonly known than aerosols are still emitted into the immediate vicinity.
I guess I am preaching to the converted but it's always useful to see something written by a professional.
https://www.carolinestephens.net/post/the-mask
I wont be wearing one.
You do not have to wear one, just say you are exempt and their is no need to prove exemption https://www.keepbritainfree.com/forum/your-stories/mandatory-masks-not-enforceable-in-uk-shops
i won’t be wearing one. I have a medical condition but even if i hadn’t I wouldn’t comply. I never asked to be locked down, all my liberties revoked, and at the same time the government still taxed on my pension . Enough is enough
I think you should name and shame the MP.
Did you reply to his arrogant response? He is supposed to be a public servant!
You should name and shame him. He is supposed to be your elected representative!
I am exempt but I wouldn't wear one if I wasn't. I have my Hidden Disabilities lanyard/badge but quite frankly I am bloody angry that I am needing to use that! I have been working right the way through this damn fiasco and carried on as normal like so many without masking up at the {so called} height of it. No one gave a stuff if I lived or died then, why all of a sudden now? Sick to the back teeth of it all, and have had more than enough! I truly wish I could be there at Hyde Park tomorrow, but it's too far for me to get to, will be cheering you all on in spirit.
So will I. And well done u for working right through👍
I would love to name and shame - I'll say I'm from Hemel Hempstead, goolge local MP & you#ll find Sir MP.
Good luck with tomorrow - I'm there in spirit & next friday, when that dark day our last peice of freedom dies, when we're basically asking permission to breath oxygen, in a year when all this is done I'm intend to sue the government for making my life sheer utter f##king hell.
My MP is George Foreman I have written to him twice now about CV-19, I got a pretty (but standard) reply to my first letter, and an 'acknowledging' reply to my email about masks. I am not holding my breath for a favourable, or non-standard, reply. I just watched Friday 17th's UKColumn and at the end Brian said don't lose hope, keep writing and keep the replies, it shows you have tried and that they have not.
I sent the KBF template letter to my MP and this was their response:
Thank you for your email. I appreciate that you have taken the time to share your views with me on this.
I should start by saying I do not like the idea of compulsion at all and I want to ensure we can lift this measure as soon as possible. I completely support the points you have made.
It would have been my preference to keep this guidance voluntary and put our trust in the public’s common sense. Throughout this crisis people have shown amazing sensitivity towards other people and understanding of the needs to get the virus down by doing things cooperatively. The public have overwhelmingly adhered to government guidance and many have decided to use face masks without the need for enforcement.
I am particularly concerned that similar guidance could be introduced for other settings in future and I will make my thoughts on this known to Ministers.
Kind regards
Greg
Towing the line with the bulk of the response but the last paragraph was at least promising!
better than any reply I have had but yes towing the line for most of it still
I'd be happy to have a Keep Britain Free poster in my window to show people who pass by where I stand and hopefully get others who agree to do the same. Unfortunately, I don't have a printer and I think an A3 size poster would be more visible anyway. Could anyone print one up for me? I'm happy to pay for the cost and postage.
I was in my local Aldi today and ALL of the staff wore masks. They don't have to while sat at the till as they are behind the screens. Last week I saw 2 muzzles.......today was awful. I would guess that up to 50% of customers wore them. I felt surrounded and could feel myself getting anxious. I could not get out of the shop quick enough. I couldn't look the staff in the eyes when I paid, I wanted to ask about the muzzles but just couldn't. I feel sick as fu*k about this.
I'm off to put up KBF posters around my local area tonight and hopefully spread the good word!
I'm the same, what is happening really is sickening and scary. I'm waking up each day with anxiety and I'm not what you would consider to be a 'snowflake' quire the opposite. I'm deeply concerned about the future my young son will have. I feel very worried and desperately need hope. I am still struggling to believe it is actually happening in this country. The thing is so many are against it but don't speak up. We are simply giving them the power, we could take it away if everyone stood up and spoke out.
Dylan, whilst I run the risk of being labelled a crazy conspiracy theorist I’d like to explain what I believe is under way - in the hope it may provide some reassurance. What is happening right now has been long planned by those who hold - and have long held - the levers of power. Note, I do not use the word government. The world changed in 2016 with Brexit & Donald Trump. Then we saw the mass media hate campaign begin - and is ongoing. The controlling elites became threatened like never before and began a desperate push to regain the Whitehouse. it is no coincidence that COVID-19, BLM division etc etc is happening in an election year. The bid for power has now accelerated to a level never seen before - aided by a corrupt global media. The government guidelines that so affect our lives are those of scientists and big pharma associates, with bought and paid for politicians assisting them. I believe Trump, Boris Johnson and their global allies are playing ball until such time as the hammer drops, truth comes out and the crooks exposed. I hope this could be as early as November. It is clear that a massive amount is happening behind the scenes - things our media dare not report. For example, whilst the US justice system normally holds approximately 2,000 sealed indictments in its system at any one time, there are currently over 150,000. Through Executive Orders since 2017 the way has been cleared for military tribunals for treason and sedition cases, clarification made for the death penalty for ‘enemy combatants’, and that term defined. Guantanamo Bay has been massively expanded and staffed by military trained to deal with high status inmates. Also built there is a geriatric wing. So there are those who will not be coming out. Trump promised to drain the swamp. Many here in the U.K. believed this to be limited to Washington. Not so. It is global. I believe the swamp is being taken down right now. The public are being shown an absolute evil that, had we been told many would never have believed and the media would have gone into overdrive to debunk. No, we are being shown. Only then will we all realise and have the will for change. Events are painful right now, but this is necessary to get to a better world. Those ruling elites i mentioned before have been responsible for war, pain misery, sickness and poverty. We cannot imagine a world without them - but I believe such a world is not too far away. What we are experiencing has nothing do with a virus and everything to do with power. Power at any cost. A Trump win in November is key. If America falls, we all fall - but I don’t believe that will happen. I remain optimistic and I hope this has helped you in some way.
Thank you, I hope you are correct.
I'm not wearing a mask, or claiming an exemption either.
I also wrote to my local MP Sir Roger Gale, he was also very rude, dismissive and arrogant. I did reply and made sure I told him what I thought of his attitude and let him know he just lost 2 future votes.
Hi Simon, All, this just shocks me, to be honest.
On July 21, gov.uk had this to say about Health and Safety at work, re: Covid:
6.1 Face coverings
There are some circumstances when wearing a face covering may be marginally beneficial as a precautionary measure. The evidence suggests that wearing a face covering does not protect you, but it may protect others if you are infected but have not developed symptoms.
...
It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of using a face covering to protect others is weak and the effect is likely to be small,
...
The document is here:
Now, on July 24th, the same document says:
6.1 Face coverings
There is growing evidence that wearing a face covering in an enclosed space helps protect individuals and those around them from COVID-19.
...
<and the second sentence I highlighted above is gone entirely>
The later document is here:
So on July 23rd, the UK government re-edited previously clear advice on face-mask wearing to fit their post 24th narrative.
On what new evidence would these edits be based on - evidence which presumably did not exist for the entire time the "pandemic" was at its UK height?
This seems like incompetent, misleading manipulation. Incompetent for its timing (the night before the 24th !?), and misleading because it shows a point of view which is contradictory to a point of view just 24 hours earlier.
Sigh, is this something you can use in your legal challenge, Simon?
Much thanks and have a fab day!
Cheers
Dave
also there is the question of mask procurement deals...
😮
RM - that is truly scary. Have you sent copies to Lord Sumption? He is the only one in the legal system I have seen speaking out.....it needs to be broadcast imo......basically Cummings is taking the piss (again) and behaving as he likes because he knows he has the backing of Boris at all times..... this whole thing beggars belief....
I've seen mask procurement deals in other countries. Frankly, I think this is just an opportunity for some into that type of business or well connected. But considering the whole situation, this is marginal.
I would focus on the nature of mixed messages which have clearly shown how all Goverments know nothing about this virus and are advised by a dedicated group of people taking orders directly from the WHO.
Every country I've analyzed has had the same approach and has given confusing messages.
Partly for a genuine incompetence probably, partly as there seems to be a global plan for a massive change.
They started experimenting new types of vaccines with mRNA technology.
https://www.modernatx.com/
These vaccines are not tested and fundamental testing practices are being skipped.
The average Joe has no idea of what a virus or a vaccine really is and the fact that there is no mention of any discussion or debate around these topics at political level or public level is something that alone should be an alarming bell.
I understand your reluctance to ‘name & shame’ but I feel naming & shaming to be an absolute necessity. We hear nothing but ‘unprecedented times’, difficulties, challenging etc etc, but we find increasingly that government guidelines are just that - guidelines. This is a cowardly caveat that allows them to fall back on the excuse that steps taken were a matter of choice. They will do this when truth comes out about the global hoax - as it is already doing so. The individuals guilty of overreach and despotism are those whose identities should be widely known, as only then will the wider public be able to respond accordingly, either at the ballot box or by boycotting tyranical companies. Name them and shame them, for they would not hesitate to do so if tables were turned.
Having worked in the pharmaceutical microbiology world for the past 13 years (I am not a microbiologist, I just worked my way up through the system) monitoring cleanrooms, hospital theatres, human tissue banks, hospital instrument sterile services etc for viable and non viable particulates, I can attest to the wearing of surgical masks for extended periods of time and just how uncomfortable they are, especially for a wearer of glasses! This link to a blog post I found over on the UK Column forum sums up the points I make to people who will listen:
https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-07-22-if-masks-dont-work-then-why-do-surgeons-wear-them/
Of note:
"Unlike the public wearing masks in the community, surgeons work in sterile surgical suites equipped with heavy duty air exchange systems that maintain positive pressures, exchange and filter the room air at a very high level, and increase the oxygen content of the room air. These conditions limit the negative effects of masks on the surgeon and operating room staff. And yet despite these extreme climate control conditions, clinical studies demonstrate the negative effects (lowering arterial oxygen and carbon dioxide re-breathing) of surgical masks on surgeon physiology and performance.
Surgeons and operating room personnel are well trained, experienced, and meticulous about maintaining sterility. We only wear fresh sterile masks. We don the mask in a sterile fashion. We wear the mask for short periods of time and change it out at the first signs of the excessive moisture build up that we know degrades mask effectiveness and increases their negative effects. Surgeons NEVER re-use surgical masks, nor do we ever wear cloth masks."
If I sneezed in a mask I had to change it as soon as I could, but I also always had to turn my head away from the area in which I was taking microbiological samples, as it is commonly known than aerosols are still emitted into the immediate vicinity.
I guess I am preaching to the converted but it's always useful to see something written by a professional.
Keep fighting all!